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  • releck97
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    Urgent!

    I just culled this off the maritimematters.com website:
    http://www.maritimematters.com/shipnews.html
    This is not particularly good, nor unexpected, news.

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  • pakarang
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    Dear members,

    I have been so honored and permitted to share this fantastic image of the United States with all of you. I have kept it in the large original format, so that we all can study it's fine details. I know, I'm not alone, there are many of us that enjoys images with such a great detail.

    The image belongs to colinpattersonphotography.com


    Copyright by www.colinpattersonphotography.com

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  • SaintsFCFan
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    To be honest, this makes me want to weep! On a pratical side I will say this, Governments bang on about what made nations great, about what makes them who they are, about the pride in what they have achieved.... the lies that governments tell is in plain sight in this video. The SS United States was and still is the pinnacle of what is achievable, the technical know how and pride of a nation rests in what is now abandoned at a Philidelphia pier. The future of a nation rests soley in it's ability to never forget it's past, this they have done and this will come back to bite them in more ways than they know.
    It makes me angry & hateful that goverments can do this, I refuse to recognize my own corrupt government beacuse of acts committed just like this.
    Jan-Olav, thank you for putting this to see!

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  • pakarang
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    Days turn into months, months turn into years, and years turn into decades.

    But still, the United States still languishes alongside a pier almost forgotten.

    I often wonder what is in store for this ship and how long can she stay like this?

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    Here is a link of the various videos on the Big U:

    http://www.ssunitedstates.org/?page_id=168

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Here is an update from Ted who had attended the SS United States Conservancy meeting in NYC:

    Last night I attended an SS United States Conservancy presentation to
    Manhattan Community Board 4 (West Side) with the New York City Economic
    Development Corp. attending.

    The main presenter was very articulate about the possibility of bringing to
    ship to New York and he outlined where she might berth, and this was the
    trust of the meeting. The Community Board and NYC EDC then responded as to
    what location might be feasible and what would not be.

    The Manhattan West Side locations, with the most promise, are Pier 86,
    adjacent to the Intrepid (and the liner's original berth) and the north side
    of Pier 76, a former USL cargo pier and opposite the Javits Convention
    Center. The center was originally designed with the idea of constructing a
    bridge over West Street to the piers.

    Before anyone goes shooting down any likelihood of anything happening
    because of the money issues, this presentation was tiptoeing over some new
    ground.

    There was general agreement that the ship could not dock anywhere on
    Hudson River Park Trust land, which wants nothing maritime, just open space and
    recreation. The south side of 92 is a no go because the EDC wants to keep
    that berth open for the occasional fourth ship that calls at the PCT.

    Governors Island was mentioned in passing too.

    Uses for the ship discussed were hotel/meeting
    spaces/restaurants/school/museum.

    That's All Folks
    Ted in NYC
    Looks like the Big U might join the SS Rotterdam towards becoming a hotel ship. Something I hope the MS Kungsholm, MS Augustus, and the MS Sagafjord will also become as well.
    Last edited by redlinekid2; January 17th, 2010, 10:09.

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  • pakarang
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    Thanks for that wonderful flash-back in time redlinekid!

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    Seatrade Week
    January 15, 1993



    The SS United States continues to make headlines in Turkey, where
    enviromentalists are worried about hazards that could result in refurbishment
    work on the asbestos-laden ship.

    Turkey's Enviroment Minister Dogancan Akyurek, announced last week the asbestos from the veteran cruiseship can not be disposed of in Turkey. This news has not dampened the irrepressible Kahraman Sadikoglu, principle owner of the US, who reaffirmed to Seatrade Week he would remove the asbestos in Turkey, disposing of it elsewhere if necessary. He says he signed a $620,000 contract with Dutch asbestos removal specialists.

    Sadikoglu is a major shareholder in Marmara Marine, the US registered company that bought the ship last April and brought it to Turkey. Plan is to operate the ship on cruises to the US, and Sadikoglu is hopeful of signing a party charter later this month, thus triggering finance for the $160m refurbishment, which would boost the flagging orderbooks of Turkish yards.


    *This $620,000 figure was an amazing deal given what the figure could have run had US rules and regulations been applied. In terms of the removal process the owners got an incredible dream. But, as many suspected some of the material removed was not done so in an comfortable manner. Cut wall sections ended up in various homes in and around the shipyard. One section of interior (asbestos) wall was used an an outside fence. Some of what was removed did get bagged up properly. But many of those bags never left the shipyard, exposed to the elements and ended up being opened up again. It was years after the ship left Europe that the a large chunk of the asbestos was removed from the yard. Even the onboard clean up was done abit crude, with just straw broomsticks to clean up the aftermath. And the $620k also included painting the waterline and screw removal (and thankfully those were not sold for scrap..unless they could not be?). It appears the removal process was an inexpensive process for her owners and a profit maker for the demo company.

    When the ship returned to the US there was an effort to tax Marmara for the work done to the ship. I don't have the dollar amount nor can confirm they had to pay a tax in the end.

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    In what must be years, The New York Times had an article featuring an old American Icon and ocean liner, the SS United States.


    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...0states&st=cse

    While we all would love the idea, its a pipe dream. One that I hope will come true.
    Love the idea to help finance it, find rich people! With all that stimilus money going to those banks, here is one cause worthy recipient.

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  • Steve.B
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    Originally posted by SaintsFCFan View Post
    I saw the United States a couple of times as a wee lad. Mighty impressive lady to see up close on the dockside. I saw most of the liners in the 1960s through connections to Southampton dockside personell.
    I envy you big time! How cool that must have been for you.
    I can only remember seeing the S.S France and the Canberra. The France i saw from a distance, but i have plenty of memories of seeing the Canberra on the Solent - mainly from aboard one of the ferries.

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  • SaintsFCFan
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    I saw the United States a couple of times as a wee lad. Mighty impressive lady to see up close on the dockside. I saw most of the liners in the 1960s through connections to Southampton dockside personell.

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  • pakarang
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    When I see images such as these, I'm filled with envy for not having had the pleasure of seeing these giant ocean liners at the height of their time.

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  • SaintsFCFan
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    Here I have found a truly rare photo with my father and United States in Southampton from 1957. In the left side just visible above the tug boat you can see RMS Queen Elizabeth getting a good scrubbing down in King George V Graving Dock.

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  • pakarang
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    United States painting from the 1990's:

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    He is a commentary that I found on the ship.:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...R_KOD%3D133526


    An interesting article.

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