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    Originally posted by Meteor View Post
    In Bergen today
    Good photo

    Can I please ask something that has been puzzling me for some time (probably very silly but never mind). Why do the 2 traditional ships usually tie up on the starboard side while the others in the fleet usually tie up on the port side?

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      Originally posted by Gaelsail View Post
      Why do the 2 traditional ships usually tie up on the starboard side while the others in the fleet usually tie up on the port side?
      That's because the traditional ships have primitive bow thrusters fitted only to the port side

      Clipper
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      Harald Jarl, Honningsvag to Svolvaer, Summer 1985.
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      The first 5 days after the weekend are the toughest.

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        Originally posted by Gaelsail View Post
        Can I please ask something that has been puzzling me for some time (probably very silly but never mind). Why do the 2 traditional ships usually tie up on the starboard side while the others in the fleet usually tie up on the port side?
        The two traditional ships can berth with either port or starboard side to the quay. The newer vessels, however, have to berth with the port side alongside, as the access to the cargo hold is on the port side only!

        Otherwise, the explanation by Clipper was amusing!

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          Originally posted by Gaelsail View Post
          Why do the 2 traditional ships usually tie up on the starboard side while the others in the fleet usually tie up on the port side?
          When i remember my cruise on Lofoten, she tied up on both sides, depending on the direction of the travel, wind, situation in port, creativity of the crew etc. .
          Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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            Originally posted by Ralf__ View Post
            When i remember my cruise on Lofoten, she tied up on both sides, depending on the direction of the travel, wind, situation in port, creativity of the crew etc. .
            Thanks everyone. Everytime I've seen her, whether in real life or on the webcam she'd been tied up starboard side.

            I love the primitive bow thrusters, must have been one of the earliest ships to have them introduced

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              Originally Posted by Gaelsail:
              Why do the 2 traditional ships usually tie up on the starboard side while the others in the fleet usually tie up on the port side?
              They usually dock the easiest way, that is with the bow first. As a rule, it's easier to leave the quay backwards. than to dock backwards.

              Starboard or port side then depends on which side the quay is.

              However, the most coldblooded mates do dock with the stern first in narrow waters like Trondheim, but that manouver is not for the fainthearted.

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              Regards, photo and copyright; Sigve

              Normal docking in Trondheim, Nordstjernen docking with the bow first, Lofoten already docked:


              Backwards docking in Trondheim by coldblooded mate; Lofoten with the stern first. (They only do this when the innermost ship is the first one to dock).
              Last edited by Sigve; June 11th, 2010, 19:16.
              Regards; Sigve.
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                They usually dock the easiest way, that is with the bow first. As a rule, it's easier to leave the quay backwards. than to dock backwards.
                I'm sure you are 100% correct here, Sigve.

                In Kristiansund, they always dock port side in, both "Nordstjernen" and "Lofoten"

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                  Well, as can be seen on my picture from Kristiansund (#456), we actually berthed with starboard side alongside (but that was on the quay around the corner)

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                    (but that was on the quay around the corner)
                    Of course it happens, also in KSU, that they dock starboard side in, but that quay you're talking about is a place they moore 1 out of 100 times
                    "IF GOD COULD MAKE ANGELS...., WHY IN HELL MAKE MAN?"

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                      When reading the report after Richard With's grounding in Trondheim, there were mentioned a poert guide developed by one of the most experienced captains in the 90's. I'm sure this guide book tells which side alongside is best under the different weather/current conditions. I have seen in Trondheim, when the wind is blowing from the pier, an option for the old ships is to approach the pier corner with the bow, make fast a spring, and then turn with the bow made fast.

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                        Originally posted by ostafjells View Post
                        I have seen in Trondheim, when the wind is blowing from the pier, an option for the old ships is to approach the pier corner with the bow, make fast a spring, and then turn with the bow made fast.
                        Aha, this manoeuvre was excellently depicted by Eilun here (Andrea/Harald Jarl topic).

                        Clipper
                        Last edited by Clipper; June 11th, 2010, 23:27.
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                        Deck plan geek.
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                          I have seen in Trondheim, when the wind is blowing from the pier, an option for the old ships is to approach the pier corner with the bow, make fast a spring, and then turn with the bow made fast.
                          Sure, this can be done by the southbound ship (uttermost position on the pier), but I'm not sure it can be done by the northbound ship in the innermost position of the pier. As you can see in the first picture in post #477 there is really not much room to turn in that part of the basin.
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                          Regards; Sigve.
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                          IF I WIN IN LOTTO, I COULD GO EVERYWHERE. WITH FRAM....

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                            Fascinating discussion, which got me sufficiently intrigued to look at some webcam views I’d saved from Trondheim harbour in years past. Scarcely a statistically significant sample, but for combined NX and LF examples, it worked out equal numbers “port to quay” and “starboard to quay” in both the southbound and inner harbour northbound locations!

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                              to look at some webcam views I’d saved from Trondheim harbour in years past. Scarcely a statistically significant sample, but for combined NX and LF examples, it worked out equal numbers “port to quay” and “starboard to quay” in both the southbound and inner harbour northbound locations!
                              I'll take my hat off to you, Seagull, for beeing so interested in our humble coastal express that you save webcam pix from Trondheim (and other harbours?) over years and can tell us things we never even reflected upon. I keep on beeing impressed by the knowledge and dedication shown by members of this forum!

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                              Regards; Sigve.
                              Regards; Sigve.
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                              IF I WIN IN LOTTO, I COULD GO EVERYWHERE. WITH FRAM....

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                                Well, as you may have just seen from the Where is Hurtigruten thread, I have saved all sorts of things!!
                                I’m honoured to receive your compliment, Sigve, and proud to be a sort of honorary Norwegian.

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