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    Originally posted by pakarang View Post
    I found more on her history at this link:

    http://www.fjordfaehren.de/no_f/geiranger1937.htm
    More on the old Car Ferry "Geiranger" lifted from Warsailors:
    M/F Geiranger Statens Vegvesen, Molde / Møre Fylkes Ruteselskap, Molde 242 gt
    Built in Trondheim 1937.
    Pre war history: Delivered on July 8-1937 from Trondhjems Mek. Verksted, Trondheim (205) as ferry Geiranger to Statens Vegvesen / vegsjefen i Møre & Romsdal, Molde. Steel hull, 125.9' x 26.9' x 12.6', 242 gt. Polar Diesel 640bhp, 12 knots. Registered for 274 passengers and 16 cars. On hire to Møre Fylkes Ruteselskap, Molde, and used in that company's tourist/ferry service Geiranger (MaråkHellesylt-Valldal every summer. In the wintertime she was used as replacement ferry and also transported goods.

    WW II: In 1941 Geiranger was on her way into Storfjord with hay, and was off Magerholm when a fire erupted on board. The ferry Frigg II transported a fire truck from Spjelkavik out to Geiranger's position in order to extinguish the fire, but she burnt out completely. Towed to a yard for repairs, requisitioned by the Kriegsmarine (1941) and repaired by the Germans. Completed in 1944, in German service to the north of Norway.

    POST WAR: In the fall of 1947 Geiranger was on a voyage Ålesund-Molde-Åndalsnes with a cargo of furniture and 24 horses on deck when the furniture caught on fire. Beached at Kringstad, burnt out, 17 of the horses died. Condemned an taken over by unknown insurer. Purchased by Møre Fylkes Ruteselskap, Molde ”as-is” and repaired. In Jan.-1948 she was taken over by Møre & Romsdal Fylkesbåtar, Molde (the new name of Møre Fylkes Ruteselskap, Molde since 1947). Ran aground at Storseisund between Vevang and Averøy, Nordmøre on June 18-1966, on a voyage from Aalesund to Trondheim when in use as replacement in the coastal route between Bergen and Trondheim. An attempt was made to beach her, but she slid off after a while and sank in shallow waters. Refloated Sept. 3-1966, condemned following inspection. Sold in 1968 to C. M. Titlestad, Bergen, but this did not come to pass. Sold in 1969 to Brødrene Vik, Rovde, converted to barge, and in sand trade to Sunnmøre. Laid up at some point and used as quay near the sandpit at Rovde. By Sept.-2007 she was partly covered by the quay filling, but still visible.

    (Info received from T. Eriksen, Norway - his sources: "Her Byggedes Skibe, TMV 1843-1983", Finn R. Hansen 1995. Article by Sondre Kristoffer Mo at Hjørundfjordportalen, Thor B. Melhus / Skipet, Jens Chr. Egenæs, and misc.).

    Norway had lost a ship by this name to WW I, built 1907 - managed by Westfal-Larsen & Co., Bergen, sunk by a German U-boat on Aug. 7-1915 on a voyage Petchora-Southampton - no casualties.
    That tally very well with the picture that Sterkoder posted earlier.

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      Originally posted by pakarang View Post
      Additionally, we haven't quite determined the identity of this one either...
      I'm afraid I don't have the answer either. I can't remember where I lifted this pics from.

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        Well since we don't have anything on the vessel above yet. I believe she may be an early "Danskebaat"?

        Meanwhile, I'll throw in another old ship which I don't know the name of:


        All I know is that the text says; "Geiranger Blue Flu 1937". That narrows it down to a few ships, I should say.

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          Such funnels, lightcolored (yellow?) with a black top, isn't that a White Star ship?
          Regards; Sigve.
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            Originally posted by Sigve View Post
            Such funnels, lightcolored (yellow?) with a black top, isn't that a White Star ship?
            Not likely. "Blue Flu" is a nick for Blue Funnel Line, or Alfred Holt & Co. out of Liverpool. One of the large Liner companies in the early/mid 1900s, now defunct.

            Relatively light blue funnel with black top. Here is a Blue Flu funnel:

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              So, who's the expert on the Blue Funnel Line in here?

              ... and who will be able to crack the unsolved mystery ship above... I tend to think it's one of the Bergen Line's cruise vessels (yellow funnel) but ....
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                I have made a quick search for Blue Funnel Line ships, and have not seen one single "Blue Flu" with two funnels. But I have found that the big idea with Blue Funnel was to combine cargo and passengers on the same ship, and this one doesn't look like a combined ship.
                But I'm no expert.
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                  Originally posted by pakarang View Post
                  Another puzzle, unknown because I have lost my note with the name:

                  Finally identified as "Gåssten".
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                    Originally posted by pakarang View Post
                    So, who's the expert on the Blue Funnel Line in here?

                    ... and who will be able to crack the unsolved mystery ship above... I tend to think it's one of the Bergen Line's cruise vessels (yellow funnel) but ....
                    BDS had three white rings all around on the funnel, even if painted yellow.
                    Fred Olsen had/have yellow funnels with the house flag, but I can't see any here.

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                      Finally identified as "Gåssten".
                      You crossed the finishline before me!
                      So, you "work" just like me then....., can't forget a question about identifying.
                      I've copied this picture and put it in my album since you first asked and been on the lookout every now and then.
                      Ok, then I will "mark" this one and file it under solved
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                        Originally posted by Sterkoder View Post
                        ........can't forget a question about identifying.......
                        Our minds Mr. S, are more similar than you would think...

                        I can't really forget something that burns on my mind: sometimes, that is a good trait, but often, it can also be a very costly trait (as in a time when I see something that I want, and can't stop thinking about it before I own/ buy it).
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                          Originally posted by Sigve View Post
                          I have made a quick search for Blue Funnel Line ships, and have not seen one single "Blue Flu" with two funnels. But I have found that the big idea with Blue Funnel was to combine cargo and passengers on the same ship, and this one doesn't look like a combined ship.
                          But I'm no expert.
                          Here is a Blue Flu ship with two funnels:


                          But I don't think this is the same one as this is a Pilgrim ship, the Gunung Djati, and looks different.

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                            Originally posted by ombugge View Post
                            Well since we don't have anything on the vessel above yet. I believe she may be an early "Danskebaat"?

                            Meanwhile, I'll throw in another old ship which I don't know the name of:


                            All I know is that the text says; "Geiranger Blue Flu 1937". That narrows it down to a few ships, I should say.
                            Originally posted by ombugge View Post
                            Here is a Blue Flu ship with two funnels:


                            But I don't think this is the same one as this is a Pilgrim ship, the Gunung Djati, and looks different.
                            Could the ship Sigve found, have been rebuilt to become the larger, more impressing ship in the previous post?

                            The funnels are the same shape, but appears to be longer and thinner in one of the images.
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                              The Gunung Djati was built in Germany in 1936 and didn't become a Blue Flu ship before after WWII. The bow and stern is also different from the one seen in Geiranger in 1937.
                              Edit: Original name; PRETORIA (German) 45 EMPIRE DOON - 49 EMPIRE ORWELL - 59 GUNUNG DJATI (British) 79 TANJUNG PANDAN (Indon.) BU Taiwan 1987
                              Last edited by ombugge; June 16th, 2010, 08:02. Reason: additional info

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                                I'm not an old ships specialist, but the photo and clues that were given sent me searching for this ship:



                                I'm not sure that this is a "Blue Flu" ship at all. We don't know if this annotation is a qualified fact or somebodys guess. As said before I have not found a single Blue Flu ship (OK, almost none) with two funnels, and neither one with the lines of a liner like this.

                                This is a classical Blue Flu ship, with great cargo decks and a big house amidships:



                                From the photo, we don't know if the funnels really are blue. They could be any other light painted color, they are rendered in the same tone in black and white. If you see old White Star ships, you will see the same. In fact, I have found White Star ships that resembles this one, but I have not found a smiliar one. So here are room for more detective work.

                                White Star Albertic:

                                Last edited by Sigve; June 17th, 2010, 20:32.
                                Regards; Sigve.
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