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    Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

    Originally posted by pakarang View Post
    Never heard about these premonitions about the Titanic before:

    http://www.rmstitanic.net/community/...monitions.html
    • Chief Officer Henry Tingle Wilde wrote in a letter to his sister from the Ship: “I still don’t like this Ship. I have a queer feeling about it.” Chief Wilde did not survive the sinking.

    hmm..

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      Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

      An original photo of the iceberg that sunk the Titanic is put up for sale:

      http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/11/28/n...sjon/24577366/
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        Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

        Anyone seen this film?

        http://whysoblu.com/titanic-at-100-m...ed-dvd-review/
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          Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

          Its an interesting review of the wrecksite. I learned some new things, but if you have already seen James Camerons last word-documentary, its not much new.
          Still interesting to watch, with great pictures. What I liked the most was that they finally put to rest the myth that Titanic was a weakly build ship with a lot of faults, like weak ribbets and steel plates, etc. They also test the ribbets, and find nothing wrong with them. And the people participating in the excursion are well-known faces, mostly from the RMS Titanic Inc, pluss Ken Marschall, which pretty much is a guarantee in itself that its a good documentary.

          There is also another documentary from this same excursion, which focuses a lot more on the history of Titanic, and not the acctual expedition.
          Its called Titanic 100 Years in 3D. Recommended!

          I have always wondered something.. Titanics bow is facing N/E, and none of these documentaries and animations of the sinking shows that the bow turns as it falls to the bottom. Did they turn around after they hit the iceberg? Does anyone know?

          Originally posted by pakarang View Post

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            Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

            Originally posted by carinahansen View Post
            I have always wondered something.. Titanics bow is facing N/E, and none of these documentaries and animations of the sinking shows that the bow turns as it falls to the bottom. Did they turn around after they hit the iceberg? Does anyone know?
            How peculiar that you also have noticed that... I have also thought about it, and in my mind, she must have drifted while "sinking" in a way that her bow turned towards NE between time of collision and sinking.
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              Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

              It has been claimed in many books (as well as documentaries) that when the Titanic broke up, the bow section spiraled or corkscrewed towards the bottom. Therefore, her final resting place is just a matter of which direction she was pointing when she hit. Because of the shape of the bow, I doubt any ship sinking (unless anchored) would end up on the bottom pointing the same direction that it was traveling.

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                Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                Originally posted by Remarc View Post
                It has been claimed in many books (as well as documentaries) that when the Titanic broke up, the bow section spiraled or corkscrewed towards the bottom. Therefore, her final resting place is just a matter of which direction she was pointing when she hit. Because of the shape of the bow, I doubt any ship sinking (unless anchored) would end up on the bottom pointing the same direction that it was traveling.
                That would very much depend on water depth and the conditions at the time, both vessel condition and current at various depths. damages on one side only , or any other asymmetry could cause the wreck to rotate or oscillate while sinking towards the bottom (in deep water).

                In any case, the vessel was afloat for quite a while before sinking so it would very likely have change heading from the direction of travel before hitting the iceberg.

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                  Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                  An old article about Titanic:



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                    Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                    Another Titanic fact:

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                      Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                      Tour wreck of Titanic by submersible for $66,257

                      http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/13407
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                        Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                        Plans for Titanic 2 has been revealed: http://mashable.com/2013/02/26/titantic-ii/

                        It will make its maiden voyage on 2016 from Southhampton, England to New York, carrying 2,600 passengers in 850 cabins. It will employ about 900 crew members. The length will be three inches longer than the original at 883 feet and include 18 lifeboats — enough for everyone on board.

                        "The area [for] passengers will be authentic with the same design and facilities, but there will be modern things such as air conditioning and other features we are debating, such as Internet on the ship," Palmer said at the press conference. "I'm against it. I think you should relax on vacation. There won't be TVs in the state rooms though."

                        The Titanic II has kept various features based on the class system of the early 1900s. Like the first ship, it will have a gym, Turkish baths, a squash court, a grand staircase and swimming pools. It will also retain the dining rooms for second and third class, as well as Captain Smith's sitting room, bedroom and quarters.

                        Passengers will also be given 1920s-area costumes, which will be included in state rooms upon arrival and will be a part of the ticket fee, to help recreate the experience. First class passengers will not be able to mingle with those in second or third class, but will be able to spend a few days in different quarters, which will require people to change clothing.



                        I still dont like this idea.. And I dont like that they're keeping the classes onboard, and 1st class gets clothes from the 1920s to wear onboard. Really?

                        And beeing built in China, and Australian owned. It feels so wrong.. Like a cheap ripp-off made by a billionare just to earn even more money. I dont feel the heart and passion in this project.


                        I might never have been happy with it though, unless it was beeing built by Irish people in Harland & Wolff.. Or there atleast were some Titanic-historians included in this project.
                        Last edited by carinahansen; February 26th, 2013, 22:20.

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                          Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                          I'm curious how they will match the SOLAS-Rules....
                          Last edited by reini; February 27th, 2013, 17:08.
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                            Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                            Originally posted by carinahansen View Post
                            Plans for Titanic 2 has been revealed: Like a cheap ripp-off made by a billionare just to earn even more money.
                            Of course, Carina.

                            "It will really help you pretend you are in the movie," Palmer said.
                            Sorry, but I have no words - at least not printable here - with which to answer that.
                            Ivy

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                              Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                              The reality is that you cannot make an exact replica of Titanic today.
                              The technology and regulatory requirement is entirely different.
                              What you can build is something that has some similarities to the actual Titanic, or more likely, what it looked like in the movie, because that is what most people is looking for.

                              Her is some of the differences:
                              - Titanic was build with steel of a much lower grade than today, therefore the plates and frames were much thicker and heavier than needed now.
                              If built to same drawings the hull would be twice as heavy and expensive as a modern ship.

                              - The Titanic was built with all riveted construction.
                              There is hardly anybody who knows how to rivet anymore. Would not even be approved for a newbuilt vessel.

                              The two above items can easily be overcome by building the replica with modern building materials and methods, which would hardly be noticed by the average cruise passenger.

                              - Passenger ships built today has to meet SOLAS 2010 requirement for fire retardant materials, fire and water tight compartmentation, fire suppressant systems etc. none of which applied in 1912.

                              - Ships built today has to have enclosed lifeboats, life rafts and very different launching devices from what was on the Titanic. Large bright orange Lifeboats will be VERY prominent on the vessel.

                              - The Titanic was a Steam Ship with coal fired boilers and reciprocating engines. Hardly an economically viable solution today, when all new Cruise ships are Diesel Electric.

                              - The Titanic had four very high and prominent funnels, which would have to be replicated, if the new vessel should have any resemblance to the original. These could be just Fiber glass "dummy funnels", but of little use for anything. (Maybe used to hide the ugly Communication domes??)

                              - The bridge on the Titanic was a wood structure due to the magnetic compass. Some fancy paint job may give the required appearance??

                              These are just some of the major differences that will have to be incorporated on the Titanic II if ever built.

                              Where it is built is of less interest. There is no possibility to build such a vessel in the UK, much less at Harland & Wolff in Belfast.
                              The nearest would be to build it in Finland, Germany, France or Italy, which is the only places in Europe with yards able to undertake such a project.

                              China is the up and coming shipbuilding nation, but no large Cruise ship has been built there YET.

                              My conclusion is that if this project goes ahead it would bear little resemblance to the original, so why do it??
                              The only reason must be because there are enough people who would travel on this ship just because of the name and the hype. If the interior looks like what was in the movie, who cares about the exterior and the fact that the interior is all gory plastic replica, like all other new Cruise ships.

                              PS> I disagree that Clive Palmer is doing this just to make money. (For one thing he has more than enough of those) If that was the driving force he could find something a lot more profitable then this project. As he says himself, he like to spend some of his money before he dies, rather than give it to his children. I think he has found a way of getting ride of a good chunk of his $5.2 Bill.
                              Last edited by ombugge; February 28th, 2013, 04:54. Reason: Add PS

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                                Re: RMS Titanic of the White Star Line

                                Here is some pictures of what Titanic II will look like: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...lans-revealed/

                                Even a video for those who live in countries where showing is approved.

                                PS> Here is the CNN report, with a video that can be seen: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/27/tr...ail/?hpt=tr_c2
                                Last edited by ombugge; February 28th, 2013, 04:49. Reason: Add PS

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