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    #76
    SS United States Faces Scrapping

    According to the SS United States Conservancy awareness campaign, the America’s national flagship, the SS United States, is in imminent danger of being bought by scrappers. This great vessel, which still holds the trans-Atlantic speed record, may soon be destroyed. Bids for purchase of the ship by scrappers are being collected by NCL this month. The current owners of the vessel, Genting Hong Kong (formerly Star Cruises Limited), through its subsidiary, Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL), listed the vessel for sale in February 2009 but have not announced a purchaser to date. There has been acute interest in the ship by scrapping companies. While NCL graciously offered the Conservancy first right of refusal on a sale of the vessel in 2009, the Conservancy has not been in a financial position to purchase the ship outright. The organization has been working diligently to lay the groundwork for a public-private partnership that can save the ship and sustain her for generations to come.

    The Conservancy understands that Genting and NCL are reluctant to continue covering the significant costs associated with maintaining the vessel in its current berth in Philadelphia and appreciates the good care the vessel has received since being purchased by NCL in 2003 with the stated intentions of returning the ship to seagoing service. The Conservancy has maintained a positive working relationship with NCL over the past seven years and looks forward to an ongoing collaboration during this critical period.

    The Conservancy has begun discussions with NCL with the intent of covering some of the fees associated with maintaining the ship in Philadelphia as it finalizes plans for repurposing the ship as a stationary attraction on a large metropolitan waterfront. The Conservancy’s new national campaign is titled “Save Our Ship” (SOS) and offers a “Plank Owner” certificate for tax-deductible donations of at least $25 via its new donor website: www.ssusplankowner.org

    The SS United States was a powerful Cold War weapon disguised as a luxury ocean liner. She sailed from New York to Europe and other destinations from 1952-1969, transporting four American presidents, countless foreign heads of state, A-list celebrities, military and business leaders, artists, and diplomats, not to mention ordinary citizens and many immigrants to America during her mishap-free 400 voyages.

    Conservancy Board Member Mark Perry produced an award-winning American Public Television documentary on the SS United States in 2008. This film, SS United States: Lady in Waiting, will be screened at the National Academy Museum (1083 Fifth Avenue, at 89th Street in Manhattan) on Thursday, March 11th, 7 p.m., followed by a reception and call to action. Registration is via the Conservancy website. At the event, Walter Cronkite IV will join the Conservancy’s Advisory Council, on which his grandfather served as Honorary Chairman. Mr. Cronkite’s participation and support is emblematic of the Conservancy’s commitment to engaging a new generation of Americans about the importance of our national flagship.

    All supporters are asked to visit the Conservancy’s site and register to receive updates about the Conservancy’s efforts to save the SS United States and to make a tax deductible contribution to the SOS Campaign. “This is both a patriotic and a practical effort,” said Conservancy Executive Director Dan McSweeney, whose father emigrated from Scotland to America to serve as a crewmember aboard the vessel. “We’re absolutely committed to saving one of the most important symbols of America in the 20th century, but we’re also talking about creating hundreds, if not thousands, of jobs when this ship is refurbished and becomes a stationary attraction in a large U.S. city. We must save this irreplaceable American icon and continue the process of establishing a public-private partnership to re-purpose her.”

    Source: MarineLink.com

    08.03.2010
    With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

    Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
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      #77
      Hi Jan-Olav,
      The Conservancy waited way too long to start their fund raising campaign. They should have had this contingency plan established in 2003 after NCL got the vessel from the Canter Estate. This way, if NCL decided to get rid of the ship, they could have had the cash ready for purchase. The hard cold lesson is when it comes to business, there is no such thing as sentimentalism or friendship involved. The only language that business organizations understand is money, money, and more money. That is NCL's best friend.

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        #78
        Hello,

        Only people that have too much credulity believe that NCL will put back in service Big U and Indy. Even in 2003, they were steam vessel and not especially fuel efficient. The conservancy has not enough money, that's all. If NCL bought the two old rusted US liners in 2003, it was to be allowed construct NCL US, that's all.

        In business money is the nerve of the war (le nerf de la guerre in French), they are not philanthropist. But if one group of philanthropists want to buy the Big U and pay for her reconstruction, they are welcome! I have not seen a such movement, at least until today ... I have seen a philanthropist buying and renovating a Cinerama theater at huge cost (Seattle Cinerama Paul Allen from Microsoft), but a such vessel ... never.

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          #79
          Here is an interesting link that I found:

          The Trust

          This company is quite similar to the SS Rotterdam Foundation. Does anyone else agree with my sentiment?

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            #80
            Originally posted by redlinekid2 View Post
            Here is an interesting link that I found:

            The Trust

            This company is quite similar to the SS Rotterdam Foundation. Does anyone else agree with my sentiment?
            Now that is a great site which I think I might spend a long time at today!
            With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

            Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
            Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com
            Old forum: http://captainsvoyage.7.forumer.com/
            Join us: Save the "Kong Olav" on facebook

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              #81
              Architectural rendering of a restored SS UNITED STATES as a stationary attraction countery of FRANKIE campione of create architecture planing & design

              With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

              Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
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              Join us: Save the "Kong Olav" on facebook

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                #82
                Links submitted by member:

                The engine room:

                http://web.archive.org/web/199910121...s.com/p5c.html

                SS United States Conservancy:

                http://ssunitedstatesconservancy.org/SSUS/blog/
                With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com
                Old forum: http://captainsvoyage.7.forumer.com/
                Join us: Save the "Kong Olav" on facebook

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                  #83
                  Here is the latest news on the SS United States:

                  http://ssunitedstatesconservancy.org/SSUS/blog/

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                    #84
                    SSUS in the news... watch the lady being interviewed when asked if she would rather see the ship being used as a Casino instead of being scrapped...

                    I do agree I rather see her in another role, but if Casino operation saves her, I might as well accept it...

                    http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/good_...raising_050710
                    With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                    Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                    Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com
                    Old forum: http://captainsvoyage.7.forumer.com/
                    Join us: Save the "Kong Olav" on facebook

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by pakarang View Post
                      SSUS in the news... watch the lady being interviewed when asked if she would rather see the ship being used as a Casino instead of being scrapped...

                      I do agree I rather see her in another role, but if Casino operation saves her, I might as well accept it...

                      http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/good_...raising_050710
                      And the gutted interiors and the removal of the asbestos makes this project worthwhile. No need to remove the ships engine room, since that would not make financial sense. The dual engine rooms might make the ship into a very unique attraction as a central part of the museum. This is one advantage that the ship has over the Queen Mary, and a lesson to anyone who might want to remove them. The original bussiness model for the Queen Mary failed because so much time, energy, and a lot of money was wasted on what the developers thought would be successful without consulting the public about the project first. If the citizens of Long Beach had be given the opportunity to voice their opinions, the Queen Mary would have been showcased in a very different light today.

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                        #86
                        Star cruises contract

                        My understanding is that, when Star Cruises bought the US cruise routes, that in the contract, it was stipulated that the SSUS was to be refurbished for and by US Entities. Placing the ship on the National Register of Historic Places (even though it's a vessel), Meant protection by the US government. I think when the Hawaiian cruise market didn't prove profitable NCL (thru Star) backed out of any promises and contracts. I'm not sure how they can get away with it (corruption?????). Anyways, I think the people of the US will come to the rescue and the government will fund her refit and hand her over to a nice non-profit like the USSUS Conservancy. I had read somewhere that she was not to be a static attraction, as is the ill-planned Queen Mary, But a sort of Good Will Ambassador to house people for things like the earthquakes in Haiti, Chili and the Tsunami locations. It's all politics!!!!. There are many hands on this last piece of pie. I do hope this vision of her comes true. I beleive it will. The powers that be are the post World War II generation, who took great pride in the ship. And with the USS Constitution and USS Independence are either on their way to the breakers, broken or at the bottom of the sea. I think there is ALOT of hope for this beutiful ship.
                        Also here's a wiki article which I find interesting:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_United_States
                        Bill H.

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                          #87
                          some VERY good news!!!!

                          http://maritimematters.com/2010/06/p...united-states/

                          I never expected this! It looks like her fate may take a turn for the better!

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                            #88
                            It is hard to believe that her dock fee is $60'000 US Dollars a month. 1.2 million dollars to give the conservancy 20 months to put together a restoration plan.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by pilotdane View Post
                              It is hard to believe that her dock fee is $60'000 US Dollars a month. 1.2 million dollars to give the conservancy 20 months to put together a restoration plan.
                              This proves that it is possible even today! Great news!!

                              But since this is an icon, so to speak, and a rather important project in maritime history...., and therefore "of great interest to the hole nation"..., wouldn't it be nothing else than expected that they reduce their docking fees over there in Philadelphia....?

                              I don't know what those US$60.000,- will be used for in connection with the vessel being moored there, but it seems like there are not much pressure from other vessels/companies to get that particular dock...., or how I should explain myself

                              And in these days, it was rather unexpected that a large company would say no to US$2,9 million (diff between price and scrappers offer)..., and maybe it's time to send a verbal flower to the former owners.
                              "IF GOD COULD MAKE ANGELS...., WHY IN HELL MAKE MAN?"

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                                #90
                                News Updates

                                Kudos, NCL. They did their part to help make this happen. 3 Million dollars worth of goodwill.

                                Philly Inquirer: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/br...ed_States.html

                                USA TODAY:
                                http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/p...-saved/98542/1

                                Wall Street Journal:
                                http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

                                Cruise News:
                                http://cnd-cruiseblogger.blogspot.co...ued-maybe.html

                                http://www.bullfax.com/?q=node-famed...lear-scrapyard

                                http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local...ed_States.html
                                Last edited by RobertAuclair; July 2nd, 2010, 15:50.

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