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  • #16
    Originally posted by aussiess View Post
    Yes!

    Yes,cause it gives the next generation of people the chance to see parts of the Titanic,personal items that once belong to people that suffered that night,get to feel these people in soul. We all know Titanic will be gone for good in 100 years time.
    A very warm welcome on board to our family aussiess: it's agreat pleasure to welcome new family members to this extra ordinary friendly and polite family.

    You make a very good point. I think I might have the same opinion as you, that it is important to save what we can from the ship, in order for future generations to also feel the night when everything went wrong. Titanic thought us a great deal about safety at sea, about arrogance, about poverty and classes in society: those people that perished that night should be remembered for their loss, even for generations that will come long after we have left this earth.

    My only worry, is as have been voiced further up, that it's made into an overpriced circus for someone to make money on the artifacts. That would be wrong. The story should story and items brought up should be shared at a reasonable cost, and without any kind of modern profiteering, and also importantly, in a respectful manner.
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    • #17
      A very warm welcome on board to our family aussiess: it's agreat pleasure to welcome new family members to this extra ordinary friendly and polite family.
      Indeed,agreed.

      My only worry, is as have been voiced further up, that it's made into an overpriced circus for someone to make money on the artifacts. That would be wrong. The story should story and items brought up should be shared at a reasonable cost, and without any kind of modern profiteering, and also importantly, in a respectful manner.
      Agreed.I feel saddened when people are making millions out of dead people that suffered,especially when they hike up the prices for there own benefits.

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      • #18
        Whether it is ethically correct to remove items from the wreck or not, there is a huge abundance of items already taken up:

        http://promenade.expeditiontitanic.com/index.php

        Right now, these days, there is also an exhibition in London... till the end of this month at O2.I would love to see this exhibition myself.

        http://www.titanictix.com/

        After London, it will travel across the Atlantic to the States....

        London : O2
        Tucson, Arizona : The Rialto Building
        Indianapolis, Indiana : The Indiana State Museum
        Davenport, Iowa : The Putnam Museum
        Kitchener, ON, Canada : The Museum
        Las Vegas, Nevada: The Luxor Hotel and Casino
        Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada: The MTS Centre Exhibition Hall
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        • #19
          See the link "Visit The Titanic Store" at the bottom of that second website. They're making a nice packet out of it, aren't they?
          Ivy

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          • #20
            Anyone going to London to see this?

            http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/venuea...149056/1070182

            Had I known just a little more in advance, I would have gone!
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            • #21
              Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

              I went to the Melbourne Titanic exhibition,it was great.Saw many things that I could not get my eyes off.
              The first class entrance doors,the big piece,they were so awesome to look at. I had seen two necklaces that were brought up fro the ocean,those necklaces were actually worn by people that traveled on the Titanic. I could not stop thinking about those people that actually own the necklaces. It was awesome and quite sad.

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              • #22
                Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

                Artifacts from shipwrecks have been displayed for a very long time. It's much easier to bear with something ancient like a Roman Trireme or Viking longboat but as you get more recent it is harder to bear. Extend that to the point of a museum exhibit with artifacts from the ferry Estonia or the Russian river boat Bulgaria or Deepwater Horizon and it approaches morbid and offensive. I suppose time does heal all wounds.

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                • #23
                  Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

                  Originally posted by pilotdane View Post
                  Artifacts from shipwrecks have been displayed for a very long time. It's much easier to bear with something ancient like a Roman Trireme or Viking longboat but as you get more recent it is harder to bear. Extend that to the point of a museum exhibit with artifacts from the ferry Estonia or the Russian river boat Bulgaria or Deepwater Horizon and it approaches morbid and offensive. I suppose time does heal all wounds.
                  Those words and sentiments does make a whole lot of sense, and I do agree with you.

                  If artifacts from for example the Estonia had been brought up, it would indeed be quite morbid and wrong. But, for the Titanic, I feel it is so far back in the past that it now becomes important to preserve whatever can be preserved, otherwise, the human perspective/connection of/to the wreck might be lost.
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                  • #24
                    Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

                    Originally posted by pakarang View Post
                    If artifacts from for example the Estonia had been brought up, it would indeed be quite morbid and wrong. But, for the Titanic, I feel it is so far back in the past that it now becomes important to preserve whatever can be preserved, otherwise, the human perspective/connection of/to the wreck might be lost.
                    Agree on that.

                    Earlier this year, I purchased the 100th anniversary coal-coin:





                    It's fun to hold this in my hand knowing the coal inside is from THE Titanic

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                    • #25
                      Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

                      Some "stuff" that has been removed from the Titanic:

                      http://www.history.com/news/2012/01/...ary-slideshow/
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                      • #26
                        Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

                        Titanic artifacts linked to William Murdoch has been recovered from the bottom of the Atlantic:

                        http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-t...181138270.html

                        ---- with 9 images of the items.
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                        • #27
                          Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

                          Originally posted by carinahansen View Post
                          Agree on that.

                          Earlier this year, I purchased the 100th anniversary coal-coin:

                          It's fun to hold this in my hand knowing the coal inside is from THE Titanic
                          This was posted a long time ago, I know. But "fun", oh Carina! My uncle emigrated to Australia in 1912 and was on his way at the time of the Titanic disaster. His mother at first thought it was his little ship that had gone down. Had it been so, would she have thought it fun to have such a memento? A hundred years ago it may be and therefore not in many people's memory, but at only 20 years before I was born it is not really ancient history yet.
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                          • #28
                            Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

                            Originally posted by wherrygirl View Post
                            This was posted a long time ago, I know. But "fun", oh Carina! My uncle emigrated to Australia in 1912 and was on his way at the time of the Titanic disaster. His mother at first thought it was his little ship that had gone down. Had it been so, would she have thought it fun to have such a memento? A hundred years ago it may be and therefore not in many people's memory, but at only 20 years before I was born it is not really ancient history yet.
                            What? Fun/special/touching/or whatever word you wanna use that fits the feeling of holding a piece from Titanic in your hand.

                            Not sure I understood this..

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                            • #29
                              Re: RMS Titanic: is it ethically right to remove artifacts

                              How about the D-deck shelldoor?

                              http://www.rmstitanic.net/community/...deck-door.html
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