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  • RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 - the story continues.

    RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 - the story continues.

    We started a thread at the old board a long time back, and we have kept a long and vigilant eye on the ship which ended her career as one of the very last true ocean liners.

    To read what we have written before, please see our old thread: http://captainsvoyage.7.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=613

    Backdated to December 15th, on www.cruise-community.com you can also read about some of the conversion plans for this grand old Lady of the seas.
    With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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  • #2
    Carinival Cruise Lines, former owners of the QE2 and parent company of the Cunard Line has reported a boast of profits and stock due in part from the sale of the beloved QE2.
    Here is a picture of the ship entering the port of her new home with a A380 flying overhead.

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    • #3
      QE2 Falklands ship captain dies

      A former QE2 captain who took the ship to the Falklands conflict in 1982 has died.

      Read the whole story on BBC News:

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/7806507.stm
      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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      • #4
        On the german "Kreuzfahrten-Treff" you can see a few new pics of the QE2 in Dubai
        maybe one of the last pics that show her in the old condition...

        http://www.kreuzfahrten-treff.de/shi...est-t1930.html


        Best regards
        Eric

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        • #5
          "QE2 owners plan to cut ship in two for future role as Dubai hotel" ?????

          read more: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...6908-21034591/

          I hope this is just a bad joke...


          Best regards
          Eric

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          • #6
            Originally posted by WhiteStarLine View Post
            "QE2 owners plan to cut ship in two for future role as Dubai hotel" ?????

            read more: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...6908-21034591/

            I hope this is just a bad joke...


            Best regards
            Eric
            WHAT????
            Ĝistein

            If at first you don’t succeed, skydiving is not for you...

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            • #7
              Sounds kinda crazy... but profitable, I suppose. I suspect that the old girl won't look much like her old self at all after the extension and addition of the "new" crystal funnel structure.

              Why didn't they just build a building???

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              • #8
                Originally posted by martink856 View Post
                Sounds kinda crazy... but profitable, I suppose. I suspect that the old girl won't look much like her old self at all after the extension and addition of the "new" crystal funnel structure.

                Why didn't they just build a building???
                I think they bought the QE2 just because of her popularity and not because of her unique history or the graceful look.
                It's just a fact, that the QE2 is one of the most famous and popular ships. You can ask people all around the world what's the most luxury liner and most of them most of them will answer "the QE2"
                This ship is just the paragon of luxury and so it perfectly fit to the image of "The Palm".
                If the NORWAY would have had such a popularity maybe she would be now in Dubai instead of the QE2...
                After all I would say, that they aren't interested to preserve the historic QE2, all they want is profit...


                But if the story of the lengthening in Bremerhaven is really true (I still hope, that's a bad joke) I trust in the people from the LloydWerft. I know that the boss of the LloydWerft is a real QE2 lover and so I think, that he would not allow, that the lengthening would spoil the ship's look to drastical (at least I hope that )


                Best regards
                Eric

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                • #9
                  From DUBAI in December 2008 ...

                  http://www.flickr.com/photos/c-j-b/s...7612589626105/

                  Noel

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                  • #10
                    Today 25 January 2009 , you can seen the QE2 from the aft webcam of Costa Classica

                    http://webcams.costa.it/std/ShipInfo...ta%20Classica#

                    Noel

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                    • #11
                      If they're gonna stretch her with a piece of hull that looks the same as hers, it might not look bad at all. She'll be a bit longer but would not look different then. I'm against the idea of slicing of the funnel...that would look stupid

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                      • #12
                        Will the QE2 be scrapped?

                        February 8: Sources close to Dubai-owned Nakheel, owners of the QE2, indicate the current world financial crisis and stem of tourism to Dubai may have seriously altered or postponed the plans for the conversion of the former Cunarder into a luxury hotel and attraction at the Palm Jumeirah. The original, multi-million USD plans called for a number of radical changes, including: the removal of all lifeboats for a full-beam upperworks superstructure expansion like that done to the SS NORWAY (ex FRANCE) in 1990; addition of a new midsection; rebuilt and squared-off stern for helicopter landings; cylindrical condominium instead of the funnel; gutting of all public rooms and cabins to be replaced with apartments, restaurants and hotel areas; replacement of the machinery with a Broadway-style theater; and removal of the Heritage Trail. With the recent Financial Times reports of Nakheel laying off over 500 employees, purists and fans of the QE2 might have reason to rejoice, at least for now, in that the owners are considering opening the ship "as is", utilizing the current power plant for eating or sleeping on board. Other options would include selling the ship for scrap, although not until public interest in the project has diminished.
                        source: www.maritimematters.com



                        Best regards
                        Eric

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                        • #13
                          Reading that cut-out article in previous post, I get serious shivers down my spine: if they have been planning on doing all those horrific listed structural changes to her, it would be a disaster at any outcome.

                          I think there was another wise member who mentioned it so well before: she is not safe until the day she reopens to the public.

                          Anything can still happen...

                          What pops into my mind now is a question concerning the contract she was sold with: are there any clauses in the contract from Cunard that she can't be resold again to a new owner which intends to return her back to service?
                          With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                          • #14
                            There were indeed clauses that Cunard included that the engines were to be removed so that the ship would not return to service and compete with the line. Same thing was done over 40 years ago with the QUEEN MARY.
                            Whether that also included being resold again to another line is sketchy as I doubt the contract covered such stipulations since it was unforeseen that the desire to resell her would ever be thought of.
                            Seeing her reopen "as is" will probably be a rare opportunity since it will not last long. Dubai I'm sure will find a means and funds to do what they want to the ship.
                            Wouldn't it be interesting to see her go to Long Beach next to her predecessor. Although, the MARY is struggling, once again financially.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Captain RJ View Post
                              There were indeed clauses that Cunard included that the engines were to be removed so that the ship would not return to service and compete with the line. Same thing was done over 40 years ago with the QUEEN MARY.
                              Whether that also included being resold again to another line is sketchy as I doubt the contract covered such stipulations since it was unforeseen that the desire to resell her would ever be thought of.
                              Seeing her reopen "as is" will probably be a rare opportunity since it will not last long. Dubai I'm sure will find a means and funds to do what they want to the ship.
                              Wouldn't it be interesting to see her go to Long Beach next to her predecessor. Although, the MARY is struggling, once again financially.
                              Cunard made no such clause about removing the Queen Mary's engines with Long Beach. Only that the ship could not sail commercially. And I seriously doubt that the Carnival/Cunard has placed such a demand on Dubai. So no, I don't believe that the QE2's powertrain will be removed at all. Not now, and certainly not ever. What was done with the Queen Mary should not have happened, to begin with. Removing a ship's powertrain is nothing short of financial suicide.

                              And given the renovation cost on the SS Rotterdam, I don't believe that there is enough money to remove that ship's powertrain, either. The powertrain is the heart and soul of the ship. The Queen Mary's remaining engine room is the most popular attraction of the ship.

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