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    #16
    I'm still looking for more information, visits to ports, dates, events which are still missing from the timeline.... I know there is a mountain of information out there among you, and that you all may know something: let us gather it!

    Please....

    http://www.captainsvoyage.com/captai..._Timeline.html

    If you see anything that is not there, please do let me know so I can create the most complete timeline.....
    With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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      #17
      Originally posted by pakarang View Post
      I'm still looking for more information, visits to ports, dates, events which are still missing from the timeline.... I know there is a mountain of information out there among you, and that you all may know something: let us gather it!

      Please....

      http://www.captainsvoyage.com/captai..._Timeline.html

      If you see anything that is not there, please do let me know so I can create the most complete timeline.....
      I have updated the timeline with as much as I think I know of the moment. Should there be more information missing, let me know!
      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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        #18
        Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

        Questions about the time-line and discrepancies found/ encountered: http://www.captainsvoyage.com/captai..._Timeline.html

        Dear all,

        I hope and pray someone reads this and can find time in their busy schedule to help me with a couple of details in the time-line of the ship, September 1996:

        This is what I have now:

        September 4th - October 5th 1996

        Dry docking in A&P shipyard in Southampton, UK, for rebuilding of stair towers and gift shops to comply with SOLAS 1992 amendments, resolution MSC 24(60) from Bureau Veritas and US Coast Guard NVIC 4-95).


        September 11th 1996

        Three crew members gets arrested by British Police when cocaine worth 3,2 million NOK is found on board the SS Norway when the ship arrives at Southampton. (Source : Dagbladet, Norway).
        Now, I have come across some additional details that I would like to include:

        September 10th 1996

        S.S. Norway arrives for the first time in Le Havre since her 1979-departure, thousands of spectators line the beaches and port entrance to welcome the ship.
        My questions are therefore....

        1./ When did she depart from Miami (same day as the last cruise ended?)

        2./ What was her itinerary from Miami to Southampton dry dock?

        3./ What additional details are missing here....?
        With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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          #19
          Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

          Hello Jan-Olav:

          The NORWAY left Miami on Sat, Aug 31, 1996, the same day the last cruise ended. The original itinerary included Charleston, SC but the call had to be cancelled due to a heavy swell that was running as there were a number of tropical storms brewing in the Atlantic at the time.

          The ports of call therefore, were New York, Le harve and Southampton. The majority of passengers were embarked in New York, and the majority of those passengers were French. Captain Haakon Gangdal was Master, Steinar Hammervold was Chief Engineer, Barrie Clark was Hotel Director and Dottie Kulasa was Cruise Director.

          The crossing was most enjoyable as a number of special lectures were held on board, both in English and French, ship tours were given and fantastic dinners were prepared every night from special menus.
          The food quality was very high.

          The arrival in Le Harve was a "happening" as at least 100,000 French came out to celebrate the FRANCE/NORWAY coming home. A fantastic fireworks display was given when the ship left that evening for Southampton. The NORWAY was to go to dry dock as soon as the passengers had dis-embarked. I believe she was at the shipyard by 1100 hrs the next morning and in the air that same afternoon.
          Jeff

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            #20
            Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

            Jan Olav:

            From "SHIPS MONTHLY" January 1997, " Next morning , Sept 11, we reached Southampton shortly after 9:00. Most passengers were ashore shortly after 9:00 and the NORWAY working against time and the tide entered King George V drydock that morning before 10:30"

            She was schedule to leave Southampton on the 5th of October, but left on the 6th of October directly for Miami, arriving on Tuesday October 15th at 0800 hrs. She resumed her regular sailing schedule 4 days later.
            Author of the article is Gordon Turner.
            Jeff

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              #21
              Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

              Originally posted by Skyward View Post
              Hello Jan-Olav:

              The NORWAY left Miami on Sat, Aug 31, 1996, the same day the last cruise ended. The original itinerary included Charleston, SC but the call had to be cancelled due to a heavy swell that was running as there were a number of tropical storms brewing in the Atlantic at the time.

              The ports of call therefore, were New York, Le harve and Southampton. The majority of passengers were embarked in New York, and the majority of those passengers were French. Captain Haakon Gangdal was Master, Steinar Hammervold was Chief Engineer, Barrie Clark was Hotel Director and Dottie Kulasa was Cruise Director.

              The crossing was most enjoyable as a number of special lectures were held on board, both in English and French, ship tours were given and fantastic dinners were prepared every night from special menus.
              The food quality was very high.

              The arrival in Le Harve was a "happening" as at least 100,000 French came out to celebrate the FRANCE/NORWAY coming home. A fantastic fireworks display was given when the ship left that evening for Southampton. The NORWAY was to go to dry dock as soon as the passengers had dis-embarked. I believe she was at the shipyard by 1100 hrs the next morning and in the air that same afternoon.
              Jeff
              Dear Jeff,

              That helps me out tremendously... thank you so much for taking time to help me out on this.

              I have checked my old diary, and cross referenced it with my old diary/notes, and apparently, I signed on the Norway in the morning of September 11th. I vaguely remember the ship was already in the dock when I arrived at Southampton.

              Originally posted by Skyward View Post
              Jan Olav:

              From "SHIPS MONTHLY" January 1997, " Next morning , Sept 11, we reached Southampton shortly after 9:00. Most passengers were ashore shortly after 9:00 and the NORWAY working against time and the tide entered King George V drydock that morning before 10:30"

              She was schedule to leave Southampton on the 5th of October, but left on the 6th of October directly for Miami, arriving on Tuesday October 15th at 0800 hrs. She resumed her regular sailing schedule 4 days later.
              Author of the article is Gordon Turner.
              Jeff
              I do remember the departure very well... (not the exact dates), because when we sailed, there was this loud banging noise at the stern, and we thought a workman's stage was clinging on to the underwater hull. I remember we were waiting for a bunker barge down the Solent somewhere, and divers to come and check out the noise which was generated whilst making headway.

              Did we really resume cruising only 4 days later?

              I find that not in accordance with my memory, though my notes are missing for that time. I'm sure that this is the time we spent 1 or two nights in Miami before doing the cruise. I remember me and the Dutch First Officer picking up the ships tenders at a shipyard close to the airport, sailing them down the canal to the ship... (Husbands Shipyard)? I think we sailed them down the day before Saturday, so a Friday.
              With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                #22
                Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

                I have now updated the time line, but as I write, I'm suddenly aware that there are a lot of missing details here.

                I will have to look deeper into my own private notes/ diary to see if I can fish out some more relevant information.

                Should you have more to add, correct, I would be extremely happy for any help that you may be able to render to me.
                With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                  #23
                  Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

                  Hi Jan-Olav:

                  Thanks for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember hearing about that strange noise that came from the stern of the NORWAY whe she sailed from the yard. I don't remember hearing about what casued the noise. Do you know?

                  As I remember NCL generally used (2) yards on the Miami River. The first one was Miami Shipyard that was located on the south east corner of the 5th Ave bridge. This yard was close to downtown. The other yard was Merrill Stevens Drydock that was located on the northwest corner of the 12th Ave and 11 th Street bridge. This yard was located just east of the 836 overpass over the Miami River, and was near the "Civic Center".

                  Another possible yard, could have been Jones Boat Yard, located about mile west of the 27th Ave bridge on south side of the river. If you brought the tenders back from this yard you would remember as the River is very narrow in this area, and you would have passed a number of coastal freighters and Haitian boats that traded in this area of the river. Jones was very near the airport. I don't remember Husbands Shipyard.
                  Jeff

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                    #24
                    Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

                    Originally posted by Skyward View Post
                    Hi Jan-Olav:

                    Thanks for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember hearing about that strange noise that came from the stern of the NORWAY whe she sailed from the yard. I don't remember hearing about what casued the noise. Do you know?

                    As I remember NCL generally used (2) yards on the Miami River. The first one was Miami Shipyard that was located on the south east corner of the 5th Ave bridge. This yard was close to downtown. The other yard was Merrill Stevens Drydock that was located on the northwest corner of the 12th Ave and 11 th Street bridge. This yard was located just east of the 836 overpass over the Miami River, and was near the "Civic Center".

                    Another possible yard, could have been Jones Boat Yard, located about mile west of the 27th Ave bridge on south side of the river. If you brought the tenders back from this yard you would remember as the River is very narrow in this area, and you would have passed a number of coastal freighters and Haitian boats that traded in this area of the river. Jones was very near the airport. I don't remember Husbands Shipyard.
                    Jeff
                    I have checked some of my notes from those years, and it appears as if Husbands Shipyard was the small shipyard across the bay from the dry dock (in Southampton), in Marchwood, where we stored all the lifeboats during the dry dock.

                    During the night that we sailed from Southampton, I believe we were anchored off Gosport for divers to check the ship and possibly also bunkering. From what I can see in my notes, the cause of the noise was not determined. The divers found nothing, and the sound was gone. I remember speculations that it was a stage of some kind that had come loose during float out.

                    When it comes to the shipyard in Miami, I'm a little unsure of the details, because I can't seem to find the notes from those days.

                    I did however find these shots: the three first shots were taken before we sailed from the yard. Maybe they can help us determine the name of the shipyard?





                    With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                      #25
                      Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

                      The next shots are from the journey down the canal, I seem to remember us ending up somewhere near Bayside?





                      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                        #26
                        Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

                        Originally posted by pakarang View Post
                        I have checked some of my notes from those years, and it appears as if Husbands Shipyard was the small shipyard across the bay from the dry dock (in Southampton), in Marchwood, where we stored all the lifeboats during the dry dock.......
                        As marked in this screen dump from Google Earth.

                        With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                          #27
                          Re: S|S France and S|S Norway on the main page CaptainsVoyage.com

                          Originally posted by pakarang View Post
                          When it comes to the shipyard in Miami, I'm a little unsure of the details, because I can't seem to find the notes from those days.

                          I did however find these shots: the three first shots were taken before we sailed from the yard. Maybe they can help us determine the name of the shipyard?
                          I think I might have found the shipyard where the tenders were stored during the '96 dry dock, but I leave it to you to find the name.

                          With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                            #28
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                            Jan - Olav:

                            Merrill Stevens Dry Dock is yard, address is 1270 NW 11th street. The first view from the tender shows the 12 Ave Bridge. Merrill Stevens had been in business since 1926 at that location. Unfortunately the Merrill family sold the yard about six years, and the new owners made some bad business decisions and together with the bad economy caused the yard to close.

                            FYI- The Merrill family also started and ran Jacksonville Shipyard for many years. NCL used Jacksonville shipyard to service the White Ships, from Sunward to Seaward.
                            Jeff

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                              #29
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                              Dear Jeff,

                              Off course you are correct... Merrill Stevens it was, I remember it so well now.
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