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    I`m worried sandblasting won`t be enough. The maintenance neglect seems to be over the top now...
    Kind of had the same thoughts myself, but I don't know who read our posts..., so I would not be too critical.
    That said, and looking on how the hull looks from your pictures, I wonder if a serious sandblast would do any good.
    It could uncover thinner plates than anyone wants on a commercial vessel sailing with paying passengers, and we all know what that means....
    Now, this is ONLY thoughts in my head, and as long as she's sailing with all her papers in good order, I know that not a single spot on her hull show any sign of weakness.

    I have no reason to talk any negative about the grand old lady, because I for one, would very much like to se her sailing in Hurtigruten for many years to come.
    "IF GOD COULD MAKE ANGELS...., WHY IN HELL MAKE MAN?"

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      Firstly i have to say how marvellous it is to see all of these fantastic images of the old girl. Thank you to everyone! Secondly, i think it will be a very sad day when we will no longer be able to see either of these two ships in service anymore.

      But putting feelings to one side, i have to wonder why these two have stayed in service for so long? Is there a reason they have been kept in service?, lack of funding to replace them years ago?, are they more suited to some routes better than the bigger ships? Or do they attract enough passengers that travel on them, purely because they are the older ships?

      I doubt there are many major companies these days that will run old ships simply for sentimental reasons, so is there a financial reason for them to be still in service - no cash to replace them, or are they more economical to run on some routes than the bigger ships would be? It just seems strange that these have survived when they could have been replaced with some of the mid-generation ships that have left the service.

      Again, i think it's fantastic they are both still going, but i am just curious as to why.
      Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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        Wild, wild guess, (waiting for the members here who might know to comment) :
        The two are payed for, ages ago, and suits the coastal express rather well. Therefore I guess they are cheap to run.
        They are also nice to lean on when some of the other ships in the Hurtigruten fleet are either in Australia, or rented out as a floating hotel moored to some dock.
        I even tend to belive that the company run them along the coast because they see that a certain amount of passengers are looking for these ships, passengers the company could have lost had they not had the possibility to embark on a nostalgia trip.
        When we see what happens to ships of these kind around in the world, I would guess that "Lofoten" and "Nordstjernen" could be even more important to run in the future than they are today.
        I know little about what the SOLAS have to say for the hurtigruten fleet, but thank who ever for the fact that we have them alive here today anyway...
        I'm not a shipping analist, so if I'm wrong here, it will not come as a surprice...
        Last edited by Sterkoder; March 18th, 2011, 01:48.
        "IF GOD COULD MAKE ANGELS...., WHY IN HELL MAKE MAN?"

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          Thank you Svein, yes, it could be for various reasons. I had not even thought about them being handy standing in for the newer ships that get sent off on some nice charter somewhere else in the world.
          It is also nice to think that maybe they are kept because they themselves attract passengers. And if that is true, i feel that attraction can only grow in the future.

          Like you say, maybe some other members will know better why they are still thankfully running. And long may they do so!
          Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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            My guess is that Nordstjernen's maintenance challenges are not on the shipsside or hull in general. From what I can see from the picture, this is cosmetic rust that easily can be blasted away during the spring facelift. Older ships tend to have much stronger hulls than younger.

            Her real struggles lies beneath her water line - in the engine room, and I fear that those problem one day will take her away from the coastal service for good ...

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              The new detail images are superb! Let me before I say anything else, say that they are perfectly exposed and I love the detail!

              I had not expected anything less from Speedbird...

              Nordstjernen is indeed an aging lady, she is beautiful and I admire the company for still keeping her so much alive, but I do also understand that it is not a question of "if", but rather "when" something will happen.

              We must understand that this ship is now 55 years old, and has been operating in a very demanding coastal service ever since her launch. She is undoubtedly worn, no matter how well she has been taken care of, refurbished and serviced, she is really old. The cost of maintenance on such an old vessel is no laughing matter, and she is still sailing in a very challenging service together with top-shape modern vessels. It is a hard run, with a lot of port-calls every day, with a lot of stress from the sea... something is bound to give at some point.

              But... and there is always a but.

              I admire Hurtigruten for keeping her so good.

              My second but is rather a question: what is her future plans and how far have they gotten towards designing and planning of a replacement vessel?
              With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                I agree with you Østafjells, the hull is not the main problem but it is a good indicator for what lies behind it.
                As for now they need to keep her in traffic but she won`t last forever and as far as i know there are no newbuilding plans.
                Walking in the shadow of the blues

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                  The plan is to reduce the fleet by two ships, you remember. They just postponed the date of decision by four weeks. So we have to wait and see what will be the decision and then we can speculate from the beginning.
                  Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                    the Nordstjernen in Rørvik 15. March 2011





                    best regards Doris

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                      Originally posted by Doris H View Post
                      the Nordstjernen in Rørvik 15. March 2011



                      best regards Doris
                      Great new angle to see the Nordstjernen.... love this shot!
                      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                        I fully agree. Thank you for that wonderful spot!

                        Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                          A great capture... love the way you managed to get the heat escaping from the funnel!

                          She looks a little bit twisted in the image...?
                          With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                          Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                          Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                          Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                            Oh, she's just so...CHARMING!!!

                            (fooled you, didn't I???)

                            Lovely angles...lovely lines!!!!!!

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                              Nice and clear image: what a thrill to see your photography in these reports!

                              Thank you so very much for sharing!
                              With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                              Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                              Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                              Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                                A few from last week:



                                Well well... Poor seamanship anyone? I learned when i was at sea that you do NOT under any circumstances leave an anchor like this! It looks bad and when you really need it it might be jammed in the hawse pipe.


                                Oh well, they made it safely to the dock this time too!
                                Walking in the shadow of the blues

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