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    Originally posted by HARALD JARL View Post
    Re asbestos, it does no damage if left alone. Removing it requires protective gear.
    Exactly my point, leave the asbestos in place. Cover it or paint over it and it doesn't represent any danger. If you have to drill a hole in a wall plate containing asbestos, wear a Dust Mast.
    The problem comes when you remove it and how to safely dispose of it according to the HSE rules.

    All the years asbestos was regarded as a safe material only a few who were working with manufacturing, installing or removing it suffered any serious sickness, and even fewer died.

    Smoking is much more dangerous, not to mention driving a car, or crossing a busy street. Do Risk Analysis on the three subjects and the conclusion will be; Ban smoking and cars, the risk from asbestos can easily be mitigated as said above.

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      I totally agree... leaving the asbestos is probably the best solution, but that could also be the problem.

      Conversions and sometimes major overhaul means that the asbestos must be removed to give room for the work to take place, and then, the problems quickly arise.

      Asbestos was actively used in most ships during the years when this venerable lady was put together, luckily now, we know better through technology and better materials.

      I'm glad Hurtigruten takes proper action though, and deal with the 'problem' the right and in a professional way.
      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

      Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
      Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

      Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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        Originally posted by pakarang View Post
        I totally agree... leaving the asbestos is probably the best solution, but that could also be the problem.

        I'm glad Hurtigruten takes proper action though, and deal with the 'problem' the right and in a professional way.
        Deal with a "problem" when it becomes a problem. Are they doing any major conversion, or just regular overhaul now???

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          Originally posted by pakarang View Post
          Conversions and sometimes major overhaul means that the asbestos must be removed to give room for the work to take place, and then, the problems quickly arise.
          You may be onto something there. Previously impressed by your technical intuition, I find this reasonable.

          Also, I read somewhere that they had a smoldering fire during the works, dunno what kind of damage that did.

          Impatiently waiting for her to return, she's been out three trips now. Nov 1 is only one week away, surely they must have a rough estimate by now. Gives me a feeling this asbestos thingy may take longer. So my expectation for autumn storms turns into winter storms by the time she's back...

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            Originally posted by HARALD JARL View Post
            Also, I read somewhere that they had a smoldering fire during the works, dunno what kind of damage that did.
            From my own shipboard experience, a smoldering fire has a tendency to become a blazing inferno in a flash.... I wouldn't put too much into any fire report unless the ship looks damaged. Most can be repaired.

            Drydocks are an incredible hectic time for the crew, and even a day before the guests arrive for the first cruise, things may look totally upside down on board.

            But I do understand your thoughts very well: we are talking about a beloved ship and we all only wants the very best for her.
            With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

            Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
            Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

            Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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              The Grand old lady is back in duty
              At this time she is in svolvær, stronger and better than ever

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                And tonight she' steaming north from Tromsø. Sooo good to hear she's shipshape!

                If the weather had been right, I'd have boarded there. Sailing with wind from land is boring, only small waves and no swells - I want lotsa bucking for my bucks... Hoping for some W-SW winds next time she passes my area.

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                  Originally posted by talfh View Post
                  The Grand old lady is back in duty
                  At this time she is in svolvær, stronger and better than ever
                  Logging in to CV today indeed made me in good mood. This is probably one of the best massages for all of us who love our dear "Grand Old Lady".

                  I was started to get a bit worried about NX, thinking of all her problems and cancellings. But now I am much more optimistic.

                  You did a great job in that dry-dock, talfh.

                  Now we just have to turn the wind to W-SW storm. So Harald Jarl and I can get our enjoying and fun storm-trips again

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                    You are a strange man Martin What do you have where the rest of humanity has a stomach?

                    Clipper
                    Last edited by Clipper; November 6th, 2009, 01:47.
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                    Harald Jarl, Honningsvag to Svolvaer, Summer 1985.
                    Deck plan geek.
                    The first 5 days after the weekend are the toughest.

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                      Strange ???????

                      Hm, I think I`ve heard that once or twice............

                      How boring life would be without "strange" people

                      Storm and big swells are my kind of adrenalin-kick. I am too afraid to do mount-climbing, hanggliding and fast motorbikes. And that kind of things. And it is also fun looking at all the germans "feeding the sharks"

                      Rolling ships are good natural-medicin to my irregular stomach.

                      You are welcome to join my next storm-trip, Clipper

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                        Originally posted by HurtigruteMartin View Post
                        You are welcome to join my next storm-trip, Clipper
                        That's very kind Martin but we might suddenly find that the English are more German than most people realise.

                        Clipper
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                        Harald Jarl, Honningsvag to Svolvaer, Summer 1985.
                        Deck plan geek.
                        The first 5 days after the weekend are the toughest.

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                          I hope there will be only E, SE wind

                          Non of the crew likes bad weather at NX

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                            Originally posted by talfh View Post
                            I hope there will be only E, SE wind

                            Non of the crew likes bad weather at NX

                            It is really good we have an "insider" onboard. Thanks for bringing some common sence into all this, talfh.

                            Happy and smiling crew-members are ALWAYS the best. And I`ll pray for a calm and steady NX-winter

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                              It was a lot of work to get the old lady in good shape
                              NX crew is always happy, even if its stormy

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                                My last day at home before entering NX once again

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