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    Originally posted by Seagull View Post
    I bet it would have been even harder on my trip when the engine cooling system had a problem!

    I’m a bit split just now between following ehp’s travels, celebrating Captain’s Birthday, and starting to sort photos of my trip, but you will see all about my NX trip eventually.
    Meanwhile, lovely to see the older photos you posted.

    I had the same colingwater problems when i was on work in june.
    Not so funn but it`s an old and tired ship.. It`s hard for the old ship to sail non stop in ordinary route. I think NX is more ment for svalbard now

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      http://www.vg.no/reise/artikkel.php?artid=568537

      The article aboute Hurtigrutens Grand old lady is in norwegian

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        Originally posted by talfh
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        www.vg.no/reise/artikkel.php?artid=568537[/url

        The article aboute Hurtigrutens Grand old lady is in norwegian
        Hei talfh,

        thanks for the hint to "På tur med Hurtigrutens Grand old lady" - so I could remember my trip in March 2002 with the MS Nordstjernen. Very nice photos of the old ship and a great travel description in the VG newspaper. And so I look forward to my voyage in October with the MS Lofoten.

        Tusen takk og hilsen fra / greetings from Doris

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          Talfh, I particularly liked the contrast of scenery of those last two photos. For sure the ice in in Svalbard, but where was the last photo taken?

          Interesting comments you made -I am starting to realise that even for a more modern ship the relentless regular route is quite a challenge.

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            In the comment to picture nr. 18 of the 19 in the VG article, they say that -"Du har bare vel to år på deg om du vil oppleve Nordstjernen i ordinær drift"
            (You have about two years if you want to experience Nordstjernen in her usual hurtigrute operation).

            Unless I've missed something, and I'm beguinning to understand that I have, what are the plans for "Nordstjernen" after those "about two years"...??

            (I'm sure there are info to answer my question here somewhere at CV, and maybe in this thread, but instead of me using hours trying to look it up in this great summer weather we have here just now, I just ask).

            Oh yeah, and the article by the way, was really great!!
            "IF GOD COULD MAKE ANGELS...., WHY IN HELL MAKE MAN?"

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              The last picture was taken in Kiel Canal, i guess? I remember she toured there about two years ago...??
              Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                Originally posted by Ralf__ View Post
                The last picture was taken in Kiel Canal, i guess? I remember she toured there about two years ago...??
                Well remembered Ralf! I found an old schedule which said that on the return from Svalbard at the end of the season in September 2006, NX went on to visit Hamburg, so it may have been then (but this was before I was aware of the Kiel Canal webcams!)

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                  Originally posted by Sterkoder View Post
                  ...Unless I've missed something, and I'm beguinning to understand that I have, what are the plans for "Nordstjernen" after those "about two years"...?
                  Skerkoder, I was really waiting for others to have the answer to this one! All I can say is that we seem to have had “about two years left” for the last five or six !!!!! –and a constant feeling of “sail aboard her while you still can”.
                  I remember being disappointed that I wouldn’t be able to make it on her “last” journey on regular route!!!
                  Of course there was the fusion of the former companies, Explorer cruises and the new Fram, mid-generation ships sold, the gradual changes in SOLAS regulations, the changing economic and market situation and many other factors. ! I don’t think there’s a plan, just reactions to changing circumstances. Who could have predicted that this summer Nordnorge would be an accommodation vessel abroad, and NX would be on the regular route?!
                  I am still not clear about the position of Nordstjernen as regards her historic status, how it differs from that of Lofoten if that is so, and how their status might be affected by the next regulations.

                  But in the end it may not be about special status, or policy decisions; talfh expressed it so well when he said:
                  Originally posted by talfh View Post
                  Not so funn but it`s an old and tired ship.. It`s hard for the old ship to sail non stop in ordinary route...

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                    All I can say is that we seem to have had “about two years left” for the last five or six !!!!!
                    Oh yeah..., I know.
                    Remember her "last" visit as a hurtigrute in Kristiansund were announced two or three years back.
                    I had the evening shift, but had to ask for a few hours leave to take the "last" pictures!
                    I drove around to the different spotterplaces as a maniac, and had the police been out to check on traffic that afternoon, I would most surely lost my drivers lisence
                    I got my pictures, belive I took close to 70, and almost, ALMOST, had a lump in my throat as I saw her stern disappear behind Stavneset lighthouse......, only to discover her "re-entry" as a hurtigrute and return to Kristiansund a few weeks later.
                    So much for the "last" pictures!!

                    But, I'm not afraid her ending up as nails or at some beach we don't like to talk about though, as both she and "Lofoten" are decided to be taken care of by the Riksantikvaren (Directorate for Cultural Heritage in Norway)
                    Last edited by Sterkoder; July 28th, 2009, 10:26.
                    "IF GOD COULD MAKE ANGELS...., WHY IN HELL MAKE MAN?"

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                      I think these two or three years are bound together with the running contract. But for sure they will apply for the next one and they will need a certain number of ships, if they will sell NN until then or not...

                      I remember a German TV-report about Hurtigruten, they still repeat from time to time. This is made in winter 2002 and they are describing the last days of Lofoten in regular service...

                      This woke me up four years ago as i heard she is sailing again and i decided i must make this voyage!

                      I feel the company seems to understand that the old ships are important for their image.
                      Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                        Originally posted by Sterkoder View Post
                        In the comment to picture nr. 18 of the 19 in the VG article, they say that -"Du har bare vel to år på deg om du vil oppleve Nordstjernen i ordinær drift"
                        (You have about two years if you want to experience Nordstjernen in her usual hurtigrute operation).
                        It is due to SOLAS 2012 - more stringent regulations which apparently may require extensive if not impossible renovating of the oldships, or something like that. Saw a comment from HR in a paper, unable to find it right now.

                        Actually THAT piece of news is very ominous. So this time, two years may be real...

                        Myself I fear these poor old ships may not even last that long, as they are not properly maintained -
                        in "the good old days" there was always a spare "relief" ship for this purpose.

                        Yesterday's preventive maintenance is replaced by today's underway repairs...

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                          Hurtigruten is one of the hardest routes in the world for a ship, it`s non stop route 24 hours in 365 days! The main engine on NX runs aboute 20 hours pr day, and thats the same for all ship. NX and Lofoten are more like svalbard and fjord cruise ships now, if they should survive in god shape they have to be replaced soon.
                          It would not be funny if Lofoten sails untill the main engine is totaly wrecked, it`s an old Burmeister and Wain from 1964 and it`s very hard to get spareparts for a engine like this.

                          We all love those old ships, but i think it would be better to use NX and LO as summer cruisers and have them laid up in the winter. There is no comfort for the crew or the passengers and in the winter its hard to work on those ships, my last trip from Honningsvog-Kirkenes-Honningsvåg we had a lot of seasick passengers because that NX is rolling and rolling, and when she has started she dont stop rolling before arrival of next port

                          There is a problem to get crew on those ships, much because of the facillity. It`s only the captain, chief engineer and the 1.st engineer who has their own toilet and shower in the cabin. The rest of us shares shower and toilet

                          It`s nice to have worked on both NX an LO but there is and wil be problem to get crew onboard. The carrot for those who worked on NX was the svalbard cruise in the summer, everyone loved it but now they are not so happy traveling up and down from Bergen to Kirkenes.

                          There is a lot of roumours aboute both NX and LO, and other ships to but roumours are no good. We just have to wait untill something happends but i doubt that NX and LO will go in ordinary route from 2009->20012. Who knows? NX will always be back

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                            VERY wise words.

                            Very good point from the daily life from the inside.

                            We, who only love to spot these lovely vessels through our camera-linces, see them sailing, and like to travel as passengers onboard............We do not often think of how it actually is to work on, and to run these grand old ladies.

                            Even that I hate the thought of NOT having NX and LO in Hurtigruten, it will even harder to see them totally broke apart during sevice. Faithful ladies like NX and LO deserve to have a pleasent retirement.

                            But I still love every day I see them operating.

                            Thanks for your informative post "talfh"

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                              In Ålesund I met a chief engineer who worked on Lofoten some years ago. Now he is working on Polarlys and it seemed like he is very glad to be on a modern ship.
                              But for some crazy passengers like me it is so boring travelling on a new ship. I don't need comfort, I love the feeling living on a ship. The cruise on Sjøkurs was fantastic, I missed only a little bit rough sea. The distances on the open sea are much more interesting for me than the calm sea in the fjords.

                              After my last cruise on Lofoten in January 2007 I had a feeling of "I will never see her again". Then I booked the cruise on Sjøkurs and I was sure to see Lofoten in Rørvik, 19. July.
                              I was on an excursion to the Sør-Gjæslingan and we should be back at 8 p.m. But for some reasons we came back nearly two hours later, so I missed Lofoten and I saw only the departure of Finnmarken.

                              It was so disappointing, only 10 minutes to late. If I had known this before, I had never booked this excursion!

                              Maybe my feelings become true. If Lofoten will leave the fleet earlier, it is possible I will never see her again.
                              Nobody knows... but I hope -


                              Nordstjernen was in Molde the same day. I hoped for a good photo, but she was too late. We had the same departure time and so I had to run back to Sjøkurs. (Sjøkurs was at an ISPS-terminal, a walk 20 minutes from the Hurtigruten-terminal) The ships left the harbour at the same time, so we didn't pass Nordstjernen.

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                                Well, after reading about life on board for the crew, I can very well understand that the Nordstjernen and Lofoten HAS to be taken out of ordinary hurtigruten operation, eventually.
                                But as a lover of veteran ships in full operation and a guy who loves photography....., I don't want to even start to think about that.
                                One thing is for sure though, none of the two will suite being "dressed up" on dry land like the old Finnmarken or being moored to a dock all year around.
                                "IF GOD COULD MAKE ANGELS...., WHY IN HELL MAKE MAN?"

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