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    Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

    What will you do with her? There must be a plan worked out: floating hotel, veteran ship with some cruises per year, floating museum, a combination of all.
    Who will operate this? An enterprise, an association? Do you have people who want to do this?
    What will be the financial sum, which is needed to buy her, to transport her, to keep her afloat and at least bring there in a shape for a preliminary begin of such a project?
    Is it realistic to bring up such a sum with donations? Are any sponsors in sight? Is there any possibility to get some help from Government authorities?
    Do you know any people out of the group or the forum, who are able to do or accompany an inspection of the ship?

    I think the first task is to find a strong partner. Either a sponsoring company or a veteran ship association, who are sharing such an idea.
    There will be no possibility to manage it alone.

    And maybe it would have been easier (and cheaper) to buy Harald Jarl/Andrea then...

    Look at the Skogoy operation. And this ship is a toy compared to Kong Olav!
    Last edited by Ralf__; March 2nd, 2012, 10:47.
    Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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      Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

      I think the first task is to find a strong partner. Either a sponsoring company or a veteran ship association, who are sharing such an idea.
      There will be no possibility to manage it alone.
      Ralf's counsel is good, very good. The quote above is a first essential.
      Ivy

      "To thine own self be true.......
      Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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        Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

        Originally posted by pakarang View Post
        Additionally, before continuing on such a BIG project.... what should/would the scrap price of the ship be?
        Present scrap price hover around USD 500/LWT. Since I don't know the light weight of Kong Olav I cannot give you a value of this ship as scrap and in present location/condition. Things like non-ferrous metal content can be a plus, Cement ballast or wooden decks etc. a minus.
        Cost of moving vessel from present location to scrap yard will also weight in on the price a scrap dealer will offer.
        In this case the condition may not be such that she can be towed safely "as is".

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          Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

          As said earlier, the easiest, safest and fastest way to move this ship from present location to anywhere in Norway would be to do it dry on a HLC, or a Dockship. Since she is relatively small and light a Dockship would be ideal.

          This does not require any major repairs to be done at site and does not require any certification to be in place, other than a Bill of Sale.
          The cost of the actual transportation would be higher than the cost of steaming the vessel using her own engine, or to tow her by a relatively small Oceangoing tug.

          The problem is that in the first case she has to be re-instated in a fully certified condition, with all machinery and equipment operational and able to proceed on a long voyage under own power. In other words, the restoration has to be done BEFORE she head for Norway.

          In the second case she has to be put in a seaworthy condition, certified and approved by underwriters for a long towage, which would likely involve substantial work to be carried out before proceeding, to ensure that she doesn't sink on the way.

          Without having seen the vessel and her actual condition, I cannot give any estimate of the total cost involved in any of the above options.

          What I can do is to get a budget price for dry transport, and for towage.
          Send me an e-mail or PM to discuss the options, and possible options for use in this region.

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            Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

            Dear all,

            First of all, this is nothing I'm doing all alone, and nothing I will purchase on my own... please, rest assured.

            At the facebook group someone had to start the process, and with my contacts, the best solution with me. I'm merely the one getting the ball rolling, so to speak.

            If an investor comes on the market, and is wishing to get this wonderful ship home... the process is well underway.

            The "scary" part of the ship now finally being available (to us), is that the place where she is anchored is not THAT FAR away from Bangladesh. Scrap merchants have a tendency to flock to old ships like seagulls to slaughtered fish.

            Rolldock, as mentioned by ombugge earlier, have a ship that they can use to send her home, but that comes at a very high price... 1,8 million US$ for a port-to-port delivery (Ranong, Thailand - Stavanger, Norway).

            That leaves the only two options as a tow by a seagoing tug, or sailing home by own power.

            The owner confirms the engine and generators were last started 5 years ago, one anchor is missing, and that all public rooms were refurbished when she arrived in Thailand in 1997-2000.

            We are far off getting this beautiful ship home, but it is now a very critical time, and perhaps the VERY FINAL CHANCE to save her.

            If this venture fails, she is very likely to end her career.

            There are many people who share my vision of her return to Norway, but it's going to cost a bit of money and time.
            With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

            Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
            Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

            Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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              Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

              New page under construction:

              http://www.mskongolav.net
              With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

              Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
              Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

              Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                There are several companies operating Dock ships, one of which is Eide Marine Service AS : http://www.eide-gruppen.no/
                Two of their vessels are capable of carrying the Kong Olav, but I don't know at what cost. Contact details: georg@eide-gruppen.no

                If the vessel shall be able to be towed from Thailand to Norway, she will first have to be towed to a nearby shipyard for docking and tow preparations.
                The nearest option would probably be in Penang, which is only approx. 250 n.m. towing distance from Ranong. Fully capable yard with Syncrolift for docking vessels of up to 120 m. : http://www.bnshipyard.com.my/facility.php

                If steaming on her own, she will need to have marine systems and equipment refurbished BEFORE departure. The sensible place to do that is in Singapore, where there are a number of yards capable of handling the job and where parts, technical expertise and services are easily available.
                "Cheaper" yards, such as in Batam and in Malaysia usually prove to be more expensive due to the need to bring in expertise and equipment from Singapore.

                The towing distance from Ranong to Singapore is approx. 600 n.m. in benign and protected waters. But even for such short distance there MAY be quite a bit of work needed to get her ready and approved for towage.

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                  Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                  Dear ombugge,

                  Thank you so very much for sharing your local knowledge.

                  There are many things going on with this project right now, and there is a small chance we might actually succeed.

                  There are several options for what we might do with the ship once she is bought, in regards to transport home.
                  With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                  Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                  Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                  Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                    Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                    Originally posted by pakarang View Post
                    New page under construction:

                    http://www.mskongolav.net
                    Updated.... any Norwegian that have additional information, corrections or pictures to share?
                    With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                    Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                    Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                    Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                      Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                      Woke up to see this in Vesterålen Online.: "Want's to get Kong Olav home" http://www.vol.no/nyheter/article531880.ece

                      It's written in Norwegian, but I believe everything that is said in the article, already have been said in here
                      Last edited by Daniel; March 18th, 2012, 12:49.

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                        Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                        I saw the same Article in Harstad Tidene (ht.no)

                        http://www.ht.no/incoming/article532261.ece

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                          Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                          A couple more articles have appeared:

                          http://www.hblad.no/nyheter/article5977268.ece

                          http://www.folkebladet.no/nyheter/article532288.ece

                          + naturally, the ship's website, there are a lot of updates and brand new fresh images to come very soon: http://www.mskongolav.net
                          With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                          Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                          Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                          Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                            Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                            Originally posted by wherrygirl View Post
                            "...OK, now this one of the sister? ship. . ...
                            "The next photo I took was a view from the Kong Olav... Now this is exciting - I have the Summer 1990 sailing list and if this other ship was a Hurtigruten it looks as if she was the Nordnorge which was at Bodø that same day, due Trondheim ...
                            "There were only two ships of this class with funnel and masts placed like this; so if this picture is taken from Kong Olav, the picture shows Nordnorge (1964) all right. She also has a lower funnel than Kong Olav. ...Regards Sigve.
                            Last edited by Sigve; 9th March 2010 at 06:24
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                            Hello, Wherrygirl,

                            Re: This photo was taken on May 12, 1990 using a Canon MP550 series/Untitled
                            "...On the way from Rørvik to Ørnes, passing a sister ship. The Hurtigruten Norwegian coastal voyage. Saturday, 12 May..." . "Thanks to Sterkoder and Sigve of "http://www.CaptainsVoyage-forum.com" my thought that this was the Nordnorge on her way south has been confirmed. Launched in 1964...".

                            Your photo brings back lots of sentimental memories of my hurtigruten adventure on board the (then) MS Nordnorge (1964), from Bodo to Trondheim in 1978, or thereabouts, and prior to continuing on my backpacking journey to the Lofoten Islands and Finnmark County. Thank you for sharing it on www.CaptainsVoyage.com. I do have the only photo of me beside ex-Nordnorge, which I am on the lookout for, as I go about my daily activities. Hopefully, to find it and share it with you and everyone on the website started by Jan-Olav (Storli), who I would like to express my special appreciation.

                            Regards, Hurtigrutenk
                            Last edited by hurtigrutenk; April 3rd, 2012, 22:18.

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                              Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                              Hallo Hurtigrutenk, I have just picked up your message on Flickr, against my photo of Nordnorge. Welcome to CVF. If you are interested in the Kong Olav, you may like to have a look at the following thread, which is an account, with photos, of my complete trip Bergen - Kirkenes - Bergen in 1990. The thread you took the above post from was when I needed help in identifying some of the places and after everyone had helped with that I was able to do my thread "A Salute to the MS Kong Olav"
                              http://www.captainsvoyage-forum.com/...0715#post30715
                              Ivy

                              "To thine own self be true.......
                              Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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                                Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                                Re: Kong Olav - A legend vessel still around even though on artificial life support.

                                Hello, again! and thank you for your quick reply. That's kind of you to give me the link.

                                Today, I have tried several times to sign the petition to save the "Kong Olav", both on the link that Jan-Olav gave me, as well as on facebook; unfortunately to no avail. I thought I would show the petition comment here, to let you all know of my interest in the campaign to save MS Kong Olav. The message for the petition would have read thus:-

                                Very pleased to read about the article on the campaign to save "Kong Olav", as reported on Friday 18th March 2012 in the "Harstad Times". As "Kong Olav" very much reminds me of the ex-Nordnorge (1964), on which I had the privilege to sail 'hurtigruten' from Bodø to Trondheim (in 1978, or thereabouts), I have a personal interest that the "King" should sail back to Noreg. They do not build such ships anymore - they are in a class of their own!

                                I would appreciate some help, please and thank you.

                                Regards,
                                Last edited by hurtigrutenk; April 4th, 2012, 00:39.

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