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    I wonder if the HSC to the left in the picture is an old norwegian one?
    Ofoten/Salten maybe?

    Nice update picture on Kong Olav, i cant stop wonder were the story about this ship will end.

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      Tom, I forgot to ask whether you have any information on Kong Olav? If so, then please tell us when you get back home, won't you? How disappointing that you were unable to board her. As Daniel says, you can't stop wondering about the good old ship.
      In my excitement I also was very bad and only now say welcome on board.
      Ivy

      "To thine own self be true.......
      Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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        Welcome to the forum, Tom, great to have you with us.

        Thank you so much for this latest picture of the Kong Olav, lot's of people on the forum are going to be so grateful to you for sharing this with us. It's great to see she is still alive. And good to see she's got both anchors out, i seem to remember she was laying on just one a few years ago, but like Ombugge mentions, i wonder what sort of 'cats cradle' the chains are in!

        Again, a warm welcome aboard to you.
        Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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          Fantastic picture! And even with these HSC's in the background. I remember that someone published a newspaper article here or in the old forum that three former Norwegian HSC's were sold to Andama - if i have more time i will search... and they also still are sleeping there, not in use. What has the owner in mind with such a ship graveyard? In some years you can float them all and you will have interesting artificial corall reefs for divers...

          I must say i am really frightened about her shape. I believe there is no way to restore her again, like that Simca, which Sterkoder posted in the car's thread!
          Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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            Before anything else is said from this side: thank you so very much for that new update on her condition.

            Originally posted by ombugge View Post
            She looks a little scruffy externally, but nothing "fatal". The heavy rust streaks on the front is from the connection between the steel and aluminum superstructure.
            How she looks internally is more of a question. If no dehumidification or forced air circulation, and in the hot humid climate where she is now, heavy condensation and molding is likely to have taken place, causing damages to the furniture and fittings etc.

            The Engine Room is also very much a question mark. If machinery and equipment have been idle and not turned over, it is little hope of just starting her up without major and expensive overhaul and replacement. In other words, she will have to be towed from there, regardless of her faith.

            PS> I notice both anchors are deployed but without any restraining against turning. Those chains are bound to be something seriously twisted and tangled.
            I agree with ombugge's comments very much: she looks worn but I'm convinced there is still alot of life in her, but only after serious maintenance.

            The anchors might be hard to get up... can't even imagine the twists and turns down to the seabed.

            Originally posted by Daniel View Post
            Nice update picture on Kong Olav, i cant stop wonder were the story about this ship will end.
            I wonder too... where will this ship end?

            Originally posted by wherrygirl View Post
            Tom, I forgot to ask whether you have any information on Kong Olav? If so, then please tell us when you get back home, won't you? How disappointing that you were unable to board her. As Daniel says, you can't stop wondering about the good old ship.
            In my excitement I also was very bad and only now say welcome on board.
            If you have any information from the owner, I would very much like to hear from you as I have been promised a reply back within a short while, but that is now weeks away. I haven't heard a word since my last communication with her, the current owner.

            Originally posted by Ralf__ View Post
            Fantastic picture! And even with these HSC's in the background. I remember that someone published a newspaper article here or in the old forum that three former Norwegian HSC's were sold to Andama - if i have more time i will search... and they also still are sleeping there, not in use. What has the owner in mind with such a ship graveyard? In some years you can float them all and you will have interesting artificial corall reefs for divers...

            I must say i am really frightened about her shape. I believe there is no way to restore her again, like that Simca, which Sterkoder posted in the car's thread!
            This might be the article you are thinking about, Ralf:

            http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/nordland/1.6204735

            There was also one in Stavanger Aftenblad:

            http://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/602...article.url%7D

            There is also a "Save the Kong Olav" group on facebook, and a petition for everyone to sign:

            http://www.petitiononline.com/KongOlav/petition.html
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              Back in Norway now and pictures will come as i get a chance to go threw them all.

              Yes, very dissapointing not being able to board the ship, i had permission to board the "Kong Olav" and visit the other HSC that's on the beach, (Ofoten II, Børtind and Tysfjord II) but the "captain" of the longtailboat we rented was just interested in getting us into town in Burma to do shopping and did not belive that we had permission to enter the ship and island. I did get to see "Fjordprinsessen" in Ranong, Thailand. Looked very good!

              All my communication with the current owner has gone threw a thai-lady living in Phuket and everything was cleared with the owner because of my father being captain on the ship back in Norway. I did not get any information about the ship's condition at that time, but i have written a mail to the lady who helped me and she will make another call to the owner. I'm going back next year and will try to rent a boat trough the owner.

              Tom

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                I hope this works!
                Back in May of 1985 BBC TV made a drama series, based around Alesund, titled "Maelstrom". I don't know if it was ever shown in Norway.
                One small sequence features "Kong Olav" arriving in Alesund.
                (I have removed the soundtrack and shots of actors to avoid copyright problems!)
                But it is still a very evocative sequence, shot on 16mm film.
                http://bbcvt.co.uk/hurtigruten/ko.htm

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                  Evocative - I should say so. Kitbooth, thank you so much for showing that sequence, I can't tell you how wonderful it was to see her moving. And, also, to think that I walked up and down that gangway so many times on my trip 5 years later. Just great.
                  Ivy

                  "To thine own self be true.......
                  Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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                    Originally posted by kitbooth View Post
                    I hope this works!
                    Back in May of 1985 BBC TV made a drama series, based around Alesund, titled "Maelstrom". I don't know if it was ever shown in Norway.
                    One small sequence features "Kong Olav" arriving in Alesund.
                    (I have removed the soundtrack and shots of actors to avoid copyright problems!)
                    But it is still a very evocative sequence, shot on 16mm film.
                    http://bbcvt.co.uk/hurtigruten/ko.htm
                    Thank you so much for sharing this film
                    Oh yes - Malstrom was shown on Norwegian TV, and it scared me to death

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                      Hi all

                      Just joined the forum but have been following the thread on the Kong Olav for several months now. It is indeed a great shame that she is languishing on the Thai/Burmese border in this manner.

                      I am a British businessman based further South in Malaysia. While I understand the motives behind the idea of trying to take her home to Norway, I have wondered whether it might make sense economically to look at a way to make her productive once more in this region given that she is already here. In particular, I have often wondered why there is not a regular connection by ship between Phuket in Thailand and Langkawi in Malaysia. These two principal islands are only about 129 nautical miles away from one another and currently tourists etc. have to take an excruciatingly long trip via Satun in Southern Thailand, involving several small ferries, to make such a trip.

                      Just a thought but if enough interested parties formed a consortium it would be great if we were able to bring such a wonderful vessel back to life, even if it was for service in the warm tropical waters of South East Asia rather than the chilly waters of Norway! Interested to know whether you all think she might still be capable of returning to service and whether anyone knows whether she might actually be for sale or not?

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                        A warm welcome, Jacko. I think we all would like to see her operating again, where ever!
                        As far as we know she is not for sale. As there is a special legal situation with the Casinos in between Thailand and Myanmar, i could imagine, that she is owned for political reasons by Andaman Club. If there are any changes in the legal situation, they could react quickly and move their casino to the open sea, connected with the HSC's to the hotel island. But of course they will not use it without being forced to...

                        I have no knowledge about the geography in your area, but i don't believe that a ferry operating inbetween two countries could be operated by a 50 year old Hurtigruten ship without safety classification and without the possibility to take cars or trucks with her. I don't believe, that we will see such a ship in such kind of duty again. Hotel or restaurant ship, casino ship, small cruiser or big CapatinsVoyage yacht - these are the last options.
                        Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                          Ralf, many thanks for the kind welcome. I have enjoyed reading the posts and looking at the photos on this thread for some time now. It is odd to think that a bit of history that is so closely connected to so many forum members is laid up on a mooring not far from me here in Kuala Lumpur!

                          Re. the casino thing, you may have a point but unless they utilise her in some capacity soon they may not have a chance to so at all. With regards to cars & trucks, not so much of a concern as a lot of vehicular traffic crosses the land border between the two countries. Re. SOLAS etc., not sure but given that a vessel can keep quite close to the Western coasts of both Malaysia & Thailand some of the more stringent international criteria may not be an issue. Certainly something that would require further exploration though.

                          What I find most interesting about the idea is the potential to involve so many forum members in a rescue of this lovely ship. If engineers who know this vessel are able to help in the whole process then it would make it much more viable. I believe there was some earlier discussion about a lady in Thailand who knows the owner, perhaps the best way to start would be to try and contact her with a view to exploring possibilities? Anyway, I'm pleased you are open to the suggestion of her working in these waters as I appreciate that a lot of this thread has focused on the idea of her returning home. I feel this might be the most viable scenario in the immediate future. Good to be discussing possibilities at last!

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                            adding to my last message

                            Just reread my last message and should clarify the last sentence. I did not mean that you have not all been exploring possibilities, rather that I'm happy I finally am discussing them and not merely reading your posts!

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                              Originally posted by jacko View Post
                              Just reread my last message and should clarify the last sentence. I did not mean that you have not all been exploring possibilities, rather that I'm happy I finally am discussing them and not merely reading your posts!
                              Hi Jacko!

                              Happy to have you actively participating on this friendly forum and hope you will be a regular contributor to this and other threads.

                              As for the Kong Olav, there is still hope of seeing her back in active service, provided somebody with deep pockets are interested.

                              After being idle for several years without any preservation or maintenance (as far as we know) it will take a pretty penny to put her back in certifiable condition as a passenger vessel in international trade (SOLAS 2010) But the key word is "International". If in "domestic" trade this does not apply.

                              You idea of a regular service between Phuket and Langkawi; I'm afraid the Kong Olav would be too big and the sailings too short to be economically viable. That route would be better suited for one of the old Norwegian HSCs also sitting idle at the same place.

                              I just returned from the east of Indonesia and can see great potential for "Exploration Cruising" in that wast region with a relatively small ship with a limited number of pax and facilities of a reasonably good standard.

                              Indonesia, being an "Archipelago state" under the Law of the Sea, all waters between the islands are territorial and thus fairly long voyages can be arranged as "domestic" trade.

                              Anything east of Bali is "virgin" territory for cruise ships, except rear visits to Komodo to look for Dragons. A few Dive Boat Cruises originating in Bali is also available to Komodo.

                              1 and 2 week cruises originating in Bali and taking in places like Ambon and Ternate in the Molukas, East and WestTimor, West Papua and Papua on the island of New Guinea and any number of small islands in the area would be viable.

                              The Kong Olav is big enough to be comfortable for a limited number of pax (100?) and small enough to call at outlaying port and places with no facilities but lots of interesting things to see and do.

                              How realistic is this??? It would require an Indonesian partner with the right connections and background from both the shipping and hospitality industry.
                              I know such a person, but we would still need someone with deep pockets to foot most of the initial bill for upgrading. And the present Owners must be willing to sell at an acceptable price, of cause.
                              Last edited by ombugge; April 3rd, 2011, 05:21.

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                                Ombugge

                                Much appreciate your reply and welcome to the forum. One word that I have seen several times mentioned in relation to this site on a number of threads is "friendly" and that certainly appears to be the case!

                                I think your idea of Indonesia is most interesting. While there are a number of charter operations (mostly dive operators) operating in the region you mention, there is not a regular service on a ship such as the KO. In years to come I am confident that this largely unexplored area will become much more popular with tourists. Yes, the key would be in finding out whether she might be put on the market and at what price. I am going to put out a few feelers with contacts in Thailand to see if they can find anything out. Might take a few days but I will revert with any news that is forthcoming.

                                Another option to the KO might be the "Orient Explorer" (ex. HMS Kilham) that is mentioned on another thread in the forum as she is currently operational and based in Sabah apparently. I believe she is on the market and have seen two prices mentioned over the past few months; US$599,000 & $1,000,000. She looks in pretty good condition and might be suited for the sort of service you mentioned in Indonesia. However, I think the curent owners have been operating in these waters and I wonder why they are putting her up for sale so soon after quite major renovations. She must take quite a lot of looking after, so they may be open to an offer lower than those mentioned.

                                Re. the HSC option, point taken and it would certainly be a faster service between Phuket & Langkawi with vessels such as these.

                                Great if we could buy all of these ships and start a company managed/operated by like minded people in this region!

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