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    #16
    MAYDAY – MAYDAY – MAYDAY

    Sabine just mailed me reports that ANDREA is seized by the bankers and removed from Elegant Cruises’ website. No replies to telephone or email queries about her fate. Apparently Stanovic has not yet made a statement.

    She was last observed on AIS 29 March near Malaga. A web-update about her 26 April found at “Seereisenportal”.

    About “small ship mysteries” here: http://www.cybercruises.com/cruisecolumn_apr20.htm

    If only Hurtigruten could buy/rent her for the Svalbard cruises, after all she’s been there before!

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      #17
      UUUUHHHH!! Bad news! I just can confirm that, several German sources had these news also. On the other hand, all offers for the Adria Cruises in Germany are open. The German weblink to Elegant Cruises states that there are no travels at the moment because the ships are in the docks.

      We have to set an eye on her...
      Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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        #18
        Originally posted by HARALD JARL View Post
        MAYDAY – MAYDAY – MAYDAY

        Sabine just mailed me reports that ANDREA is seized by the bankers and removed from Elegant Cruises’ website. No replies to telephone or email queries about her fate. Apparently Stanovic has not yet made a statement.

        She was last observed on AIS 29 March near Malaga. A web-update about her 26 April found at “Seereisenportal”.

        About “small ship mysteries” here: http://www.cybercruises.com/cruisecolumn_apr20.htm

        If only Hurtigruten could buy/rent her for the Svalbard cruises, after all she’s been there before!
        Scary news indeed... this could quickly turn ugly for this venerable veteran. We need to get some information and tracking on her as soon as possible.
        With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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          #19
          Latest from Seaweb and Equasi re: Andrea

          Here is the lastes I found on Seaweb and Equasi:
          Commercial History
          Date Name Flag Group Owner Operator Manager Registered Owner DOC Price
          2006-10 West Wind Ltd (Croatia)
          2006-06 West Wind Ltd
          2006-04 West Wind Ltd West Wind Ltd AML Shipping Ltd-Liberia West Wind Ltd (Croatia)
          2005-07 Jadroplov International
          2004-03 Elegant Cruises
          2004-01 Jadroplov International (Croatia)
          2003-00 Elegant Cruises Elegant Cruises
          2002-12 Unknown
          2002-07 ANDREA Liberia Elegant Cruise Line Elegant Cruise Line Elegant Cruise Line
          2002-00 Hurtigruten ASA Hurtigruten ASA Hurtigruten ASA Hurtigruten ASA
          1989-99 Norway Troms Fylkes Dampskibsselskap Troms Fylkes Dampskibsselskap Troms Fylkes Dampskibsselskap Troms Fylkes Dampskibsselskap
          1960-00 Harald Jarl

          Originally Harald Jarl

          Owner:
          Company number : 5224922
          Name of company : WEST WIND LTD
          Address : 1, Mazuranicevo Setaliste, Split Croatia
          Last update : 2008-10-13

          Movements:
          Currently trading in the Mediterranean
          Reported 2009-04-03 sailed from Split Anchorage, Croatia bound for Split

          Port of Call Country Arrival Date Sailing Date Hours in Port
          Split Anchorage Croatia 2009-04-03 2009-04-03 <2
          Transit Gibraltar E 2009-03-29 2009-03-29
          La Plata Anchorage Argentina 2009-03-11 2009-03-11 <2
          Buenos Aires Argentina 2009-03-11 2009-03-11 13
          Montevideo Uruguay 2009-03-10 2009-03-10 10
          La Plata Anchorage Argentina 2008-12-11 2008-12-11 <2
          Buenos Aires Argentina 2008-12-11 2008-12-11 11
          La Plata Anchorage Argentina 2008-12-11 2008-12-11 <2
          Rio de Janeiro Brazil 2008-12-07 2008-12-07 19
          Las Palmas Canary Islands 2008-11-24 2008-11-25 25
          Las Palmas Rada Sur Anchorage Canary Islands 2008-11-24 2008-11-24 <2
          Cadiz Spain 2008-11-21 2008-11-22 25
          Transit Gibraltar W 2008-11-21 2008-11-21

          Latest AIS on SeaWeb:
          MMSI 636011534 Last seen at 7/4/2009 11:38:29 UTC
          Name ANDREA Latitude N 43°31.809'
          Callsign ELZV7 Longitude E 16°27.903'
          IMO number 5142657 Heading 203.1°
          Length 87 m Speed 0.1 knots
          Beam 14 m Destination SPLIT
          Draught 5 m ETA 3/4/2009 15:00:00 UTC
          Vessel Type Passenger Status Moored

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            #20
            ...the German newsletter of www.seereisenportal.de reported that Split's port authority confirmed:
            "MS Andrea" is there and is arrested by the bankhouses until "Elegant Cruises" does some payments.
            Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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              #21
              Oh, so she's presently docked in Split? Do they have a webcam there?

              Just a matter of paying a "few" bills, hmmm. Well, at least that MAY mean we can nurse a tiny hope.

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                #22
                Originally posted by HARALD JARL View Post
                Just a matter of paying a "few" bills, hmmm. Well, at least that MAY mean we can nurse a tiny hope.
                Hmmm.. from past experience, when a cruise line fails to pay their bills, there is a lack of money and bankruptcy is closely following. I hope I'm wrong... because that could be disastrous for the ship.
                With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                  #23
                  has anyone any recent news of Andrea? She was listed with a lot of calls here this summer and I'm really sad she's not sailing around the west coast.

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                    #24
                    Almost unbearable for me today - you'll see what I would have been doing in the CV diary entry of the day . . .

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Seagull View Post
                      Almost unbearable for me today - you'll see what I would have been doing in the CV diary entry of the day . . .
                      I noticed that as well, and clearly, she haven't arrived. She is most likely where we found her last, in port, arrested and awaiting her fate.
                      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                      Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
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                        #26
                        Some news i found in the web:

                        "We were scheduled to depart on Elegant Cruises’ Ms. Monet on April 29 returning to Venice the 6th of May. On April 25th we received a call from our travel agent informing us that the trip “might not go as scheduled as something had happened to the ship, it has run into a sandbar or someting," but that this would be confirmed on Monday the 27th" when she notified us that the cruise was indeed cancelled. We have not received a refund and their CPA says "they have no money." I posted this on Trip Adivisor and got a reply form a woman in Michigan who had her trip cancelled the previous month. She has not received a refund either. Our travel agent now knows of many others! BEWARE!"
                        Source: http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....uises&tid=1594

                        "My friend and I paid for a trip on Elegant Cruise Line for April 2009. Just before leaving the Cruise Line cancelled and we have received no refund as of May 16, 2009. The trip was the Dalmation Coast.....Croatia. Has anyone else had a similar experience and how did you resolve it? Cruise Line says they have no money, but they have MY MONEY."
                        Source: http://www.fodors.com/community/crui...ruise-line.cfm

                        One more link: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...Dubrovnik.html

                        Sad story, but i am not able to find any official news or statement. Even the website is still working although not updated since some weeks (deadline for early bookings for 2010 was 31st of May and it is still offered...)
                        Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ralf__ View Post
                          Some news i found in the web:

                          "We were scheduled to depart on Elegant Cruises’ Ms. Monet on April 29 returning to Venice the 6th of May. On April 25th we received a call from our travel agent informing us that the trip “might not go as scheduled as something had happened to the ship, it has run into a sandbar or someting," but that this would be confirmed on Monday the 27th" when she notified us that the cruise was indeed cancelled. We have not received a refund and their CPA says "they have no money." I posted this on Trip Adivisor and got a reply form a woman in Michigan who had her trip cancelled the previous month. She has not received a refund either. Our travel agent now knows of many others! BEWARE!"
                          Source: http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum....uises&tid=1594

                          "My friend and I paid for a trip on Elegant Cruise Line for April 2009. Just before leaving the Cruise Line cancelled and we have received no refund as of May 16, 2009. The trip was the Dalmation Coast.....Croatia. Has anyone else had a similar experience and how did you resolve it? Cruise Line says they have no money, but they have MY MONEY."
                          Source: http://www.fodors.com/community/crui...ruise-line.cfm

                          One more link: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...Dubrovnik.html

                          Sad story, but i am not able to find any official news or statement. Even the website is still working although not updated since some weeks (deadline for early bookings for 2010 was 31st of May and it is still offered...)
                          Perhaps it is all part of the current economic situation or perhaps it was going to happen anyway?

                          The advice we're being given here is:
                          • Book through an ABTA registered travel agent (check they are registered on ABTA website )
                          • Use your credit card to pay- then they have joint liability.
                          • Make sure you have travel insurance before making the booking.


                          If the cruise company (or other tour operator) does fold, then make sure you claim from your credit card company within the set time limit- don't wait until you see what happens because you will lose out.

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                            #28
                            moved this into the right thread:

                            http://www.captainsvoyage-forum.com/...7&postcount=38

                            On their website all information about Andrea has been wiped out:

                            http://www.elegantcruises.com/index.shtml

                            The German version of the webside offers no tour at all:
                            "Because of maintenance in shipyards there are currently no cruises."

                            http://www.elegantcruises.de/
                            Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                              #29
                              Thanks for that update Ralf... so, what that means is that she is probably no longer sailing for Elegant Cruises.

                              Now, it is our job to trace her and learn about her fate before it is too late.

                              Is she still in arrest and where is she located? Those are the two most intriguing questions right now.
                              With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                              Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                              Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com
                              Old forum: http://captainsvoyage.7.forumer.com/
                              Join us: Save the "Kong Olav" on facebook

                              Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                                #30
                                Tried tracing her at vesseltracker.com but you'll need a payed account to be able seeing her last known position.

                                I could however pull this information from that site:

                                With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                                Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                                Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com
                                Old forum: http://captainsvoyage.7.forumer.com/
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