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  • Re: Random maritime accidents.

    This is the latest I have on the MSC Flamina:
    The UK’s Secretary of State’s Representative for Marine Salvage and Intervention (SOSREP) Hugh Shaw, has requested that the burned container ship MSC Flaminia is still remaining in a position thirty miles south of Lands End in order to permit SMIT Salvage to stabilise the container vessel.

    This is in preparation for an international inshore state supervision team to board MSC Flaminia to carry out an evaluation prior to her getting authorization to proceed to German territorial waters.

    The team of 6 people includes professionals in maritime salvage and fire fighting. The specialists need to carry out a comprehensive inspection of the container vessel to make sure it is safe to transit the English Channel, Dover Strait and other coastal state waters during the passage to the German port of call.

    Salvors are still working to reduce the temperatures on the board of the burned ship MSC Flaminia. The supervision team is going to be able to carry out their work once these dangers are eliminated or reduced to an acceptable level and weather give them the opportunity to board the container ship.

    Once the inspection is ready the ship is going to remain at its holding position thirty miles south of Lands End until the coastal states engaged have had time to reckon the report. They are then going to define if there are any other requirements before the vessel commences her transit towards German waters.

    Hugh Shaw, SOSREP told in his statement:

    “Until the coastal state inspectorate has taken place, and the results passed to the other coastal states en-route, the burned container ship MSC Flaminia is not going to be given permission to proceed to Germany. SMIT Salvage is going to inform the UK and German authorities when they are satisfied that any dangers have been reduced to an eligible level and that it is then safe for the UK, French and German team to board the casualty and carry out the inspection of the container ship MSC Flaminia.”
    Smit Salvage Masters are among the most experienced in the world, but they are obviously not able to make an independent assessment of the risk.

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    • Re: Random maritime accidents.

      I had a feeling that would happen. So, they say that this group of inspectors includes salvage and fire professionals, so just who does the government think are on scene at the moment? Micky Mouse and Donald Duck? Like you say, Ombugge, the Smit salvage masters on scene are obviously not experienced enough. Madness!
      Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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      • Re: Random maritime accidents.

        Fishing vessel RAMNFJORD of Averøy ran aground outside Atlantic Road several months ago.
        Finally, the boat has come afloat (with great help) and made fit for towing to Stokksund and her dismantling.
        However, the weather is to rough for the tow in the ship lane right now, and waitinfg for better weather, they lay in the middle of Freifjorden, just beneath my house.

        Picture taken Sunday afternoon
        "IF GOD COULD MAKE ANGELS...., WHY IN HELL MAKE MAN?"

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        • Re: Random maritime accidents.

          Latest on the MSC Flamina: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-19455918

          I think the Smit Salvage Master could have told them so a month ago.

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          • Re: Random maritime accidents.

            stranded m.v.Hay freed in Orinoco River Venezuela by tug 'Rotterdam'.

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            • Re: Random maritime accidents.

              Originally posted by ombugge View Post
              Latest on the MSC Flamina: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-19455918

              I think the Smit Salvage Master could have told them so a month ago.
              I spotted that on our local news yesterday, was meaning to post it up on here but it slipped my mind. Nice to see the authorities have finally seen sense.
              Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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              • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                News on Maasmond Maritime today:

                "MSC FLAMINIA and her accompanying tug boats have left her holding position 20 miles south of Lands End and is now being towed to German territorial waters, the container ship owner German company Reederei NSB press release said.
                After all fires had been extinguished on board the MSC FLAMINIA by the salvage company Smit Salvage and after the stability and floatabilty as well as the solidity of the hull of MSC FLAMINIA had been confirmed once more by classification society GL Germanischer Lloyd, all involved coastal states of the English Channel (Great Britain, France, Belgium and the Netherlands) had granted permission for the passage on Friday respectively on Saturday. At the moment the firefighting tugs FAIRMOUNT EXPEDITION (Fairmount Marine), ANGLIAN SOVEREIGN (J. P. Knight) and CARLO MAGNO (Augustea S.A.) were prepared for the passage.
                On site representatives of Reederei NSB in cooperation with the salvage company and the Central Command for Maritime Emergencies Germany (Havariekommando) have re-established the stearing gear and energy supply on board the MSC FLAMINIA. Superstructure of the vessel is intact and usable. Precautionary measures for a safe passage have been taken jointly. Engineers of managing owners NSB and the salvage company will be on board the MSC FLAMINIA during the passage of the English Channel in order to ensure a fire watch and the operational readiness of the fire extinguishing device of the vessel at any time. The tow connection had been handed over from CARLO MAGNO to FAIRMOUNT EXPEDITION. They will reach their first waypoint at 13.45 lt. The passage of the English Channel is expected to take five days. Source : PortNews"

                The time schedule seems to be not actual, because on AIS you will find them presently near Boulogne Sur Mère heading to Calais.
                Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                  Originally posted by Ralf__ View Post

                  The time schedule seems to be not actual, because on AIS you will find them presently near Boulogne Sur Mère heading to Calais.
                  She is now off of Ramsgate, so her passage of the channel is just about complete. She is showing as being 'Not under command', so obviously she is indeed under tow rather than under her own power.
                  Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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                  • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                    They crossed now the Rotterdam-Hull route. They are escorted by the Dutch Law Enforcement Vessel Arca.
                    Last edited by Ralf__; September 6th, 2012, 16:18.
                    Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                    • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                      Originally posted by Steve.B View Post
                      She is now off of Ramsgate, so her passage of the channel is just about complete. She is showing as being 'Not under command', so obviously she is indeed under tow rather than under her own power.
                      Even if you "salvage " a fully operational ship, any Salvage Master worthy of the title would put a line on her, especially if Lloyd's Open Form has been signed.

                      In this case I believe they have three big tugs engaged in the towage. The more the merrier.
                      Last edited by ombugge; September 6th, 2012, 16:23.

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                      • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                        MSC Flaminia is now in the not-yet-finished Jade-Weser-Port for investigations by the prosecution authorities.
                        Last night there were noticed some containers with more than 200°C temperature at the hull. Fire brigades must cool down and extinguish some glowing paper rolls.

                        You can see her at this webcam:
                        http://www.jadeweserport.de/cms/index.php?idcat=51
                        Lofoten '07 ...... Nordnorge '11

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                        • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                          Latest on the MSC Flamina from Shipwreck Log: http://www.shipwrecklog.com/log/2012/09/msc-flaminia/

                          Looks like they have re-activated the Engine Room and leveled the vessel by ballast or fuel transfer. The superstructure, with the Bridge and the accommodations looks totally unaffected by the fire and there is no visible hull damages that could cause concern for the safety of the ship, or for pollution risk.

                          The Salvors will be obliged to remove the Heavy Fuel and Diesel Oil on board, but nothing said about contaminated water in the Holds from fire fighting.
                          Maybe they have dispose of that while waiting for permission to go to safe heaven?? Given the time they have waited, they should have been able to pump that through the Oily Water Separator, even at a rate of 1.5 Cbm/hr. (Normal capacity for an OWS)

                          In this case I would say that luck has been better than skills and common sense on the part of the Authorities that refused entry for the vessel for such a long time.

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                          • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                            Some pictures from Shipwreck Log.

                            The most famous casualty from restrictive Authorities refusing access to safe heaven:

                            The Prestige had a minor hull problem but was refused entrance to a safe heaven in Spain. She broke in two and sunk in several thousand meter of water, spilling her cargo of Heavy Fuel Oil over the beaches of Portugal, Spain and France.
                            What was left in the tanks were slowly seeping out and eventually removed in a VERY expensive operation, using the latest and best of Offshore technology and equipment.

                            Oh yes, there is a limit:

                            At least to the bending moment allowed.

                            Sh**, there goes last months ISM paperwork:

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                            • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                              At least the car is safe:

                              At least as long as there is no higher tide.

                              That should teach you when to stop ballasting:


                              Same goes for this North Korean vessel:

                              This is not even a semi-submersible vessel.

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                              • Re: Random maritime accidents.

                                Notices to Mariners; Blendhem Light House have been moved:


                                A bridge too far:


                                Where did that Canal go to??:

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