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    #16
    Had a quick look at the page source - not that I'm any good at HTML/XHTML. Those [img]....[/img] HTML tags are there on the image part of the coding but there is also inside them a tag <img (at beginning) and just /> at the end. From what I see of the coding for the smileys, etc, the square bracket tags are superfluous. I think maybe this is because the coding uses CSS, about which I know nothing, as the square bracket tags are essential all the way through HTML. The fact that the square bracket tags show underneath the photo indicates that "it" considers them as text to be displayed rather than instructions to itself. Sometimes when I'm uploading from Flickr I omit one precious little bracket by mistake and then when I preview there is no picture, only text plus the tag minus bracket. "It" demands precision!
    But this doesn't explain why one photo has reappeared while the others are still missing, or why they all went in the first place. I had one or two dips in the old forum and promised myself I'd have further good looks in time. Great shame.
    Last edited by wherrygirl; January 3rd, 2011, 18:12.
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      #17
      Hmmmm... need help to understand this issue further, but to put it this way, the providers of the free forum has no interest whatsoever in the problems.
      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

      Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
      Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

      Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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        #18
        Originally posted by pakarang View Post
        Hmmmm... need help to understand this issue further, but to put it this way, the providers of the free forum has no interest whatsoever in the problems.
        Leads me also to think "thank goodness" we moved away from that forum platform to a paid one.

        Imagine loosing it all right now, I mean, all from day one till now! That would have been atragedy, nothing less.
        With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

        Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
        Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

        Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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          #19
          Umm, I have been browsing the old forum and spotted some other strange happenings.
          For instance, in lot's of posts i keep seeing the word 'cilantro', in my posts it looks like it's replacing the word 'little'.

          Example:
          A low pressure weather front combined with a spring tide gave us a cilantro bit of a shock when it came to the height of the river!
          or:
          We took the opportunity to fit a much needed bow thruster, only a cilantro baby 50hp one, but ideal for us.
          And if that was not strange enough, in the 'Rookies and Pro' photo section, we now have a gallery called "Vegetable of sunrises and sunsets".

          What on earth is going on? Some nasty little virus chomping it's way through the files? All very strange.
          Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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            #20
            It’s been like that for a while – though I can’t be sure whether I first noticed it before or after we lost the images (the first time I thought the usage of burrito must be some street lingo or expression that I wasn’t familiar with !!!!)
            But it soon became obvious that burrito has replaced job, delicious has replaced free, carrots has replaced webcams, cilantro has replaced little and so on.

            For sure our old home is increasingly looking like somewhere out of Abandoned houses and properties…

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              #21
              I hate to say it but these sort of changes on a website are often due to someone hacking into the administration or server. Pakarang- have you got a backup of the original files anywhere? It might be possible to edit the pages offline and then upload them somewhere else.

              The important thing to do at this stage is change the administrative login details; particularly the password.

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                #22
                Yes, I noticed "cilantro" some time ago, and never having heard the word before I found it is the coriander herb, apparently Jamie Oliver applies it to the leaves rather than the seeds. I thought it very odd. Although I don't use many of them I'm usually well aware of the latest "in" word, and assumed that this was a very short-lived one that everyone on CVF was using!
                Ivy

                "To thine own self be true.......
                Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Gaelsail View Post
                  I hate to say it but these sort of changes on a website are often due to someone hacking into the administration or server. Pakarang- have you got a backup of the original files anywhere? It might be possible to edit the pages offline and then upload them somewhere else.

                  The important thing to do at this stage is change the administrative login details; particularly the password.
                  I think you are correct, this is a quote from one of Jan-Olav's posts written in the last month of us using the old forum.

                  Our dear home CV may have been hacked....

                  At the moment of writing, I can only contact you through this user name. The administration board is not accessible and the control of this board is in the hand of someone else...

                  There is naturally no danger for any of our members but the board may not be moderated through the Administration Board until this is resolved, if it is possible.
                  Taken from this thread at the old board:
                  http://captainsvoyage.7.forumer.com/...pic.php?t=2560

                  And if i remember correctly, one of the main reasons behind moving to this new home was because there was no way to back up the old forum. Not 100% sure about that though.
                  Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Steve.B View Post

                    And if i remember correctly, one of the main reasons behind moving to this new home was because there was no way to back up the old forum. Not 100% sure about that though.
                    Another quote from that thread:
                    For those of you that have e-mailed your concerns and questions, please note that forumer can not make a back up of our current home since they do not offer that kind of services.

                    Transfer from this board to a new board can also not be done since we do not have access to our admin panel anymore.
                    I thought i had read that somewhere.
                    Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Steve.B View Post
                      Umm, I have been browsing the old forum and spotted some other strange happenings.
                      For instance, in lot's of posts i keep seeing the word 'cilantro', in my posts it looks like it's replacing the word 'little'.

                      And if that was not strange enough, in the 'Rookies and Pro' photo section, we now have a gallery called "Vegetable of sunrises and sunsets".

                      What on earth is going on? Some nasty little virus chomping it's way through the files? All very strange.
                      Yes, indeed very strange....

                      Originally posted by Gaelsail View Post
                      I hate to say it but these sort of changes on a website are often due to someone hacking into the administration or server. Pakarang- have you got a backup of the original files anywhere? It might be possible to edit the pages offline and then upload them somewhere else.

                      The important thing to do at this stage is change the administrative login details; particularly the password.
                      That has been done. But it seems as if it is of no help.... it brakes my heart that we have no possibility of saving the old forum where many of us started hanging out. As a free forum-platform, we have no rights, nor do the providers offer any solution, it seems...

                      Originally posted by Steve.B View Post
                      And if i remember correctly, one of the main reasons behind moving to this new home was because there was no way to back up the old forum. Not 100% sure about that though.
                      That is 100% correct: the main reason we purchased this platform and moved to a paid forum-platform was the back-up option and more recovery options.
                      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                      Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                      Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                      Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                        #26
                        Additionally, do we have any members here which we know we can trust and could install as a member with Administrative rights on the old board... someone who could maybe look into the problems we experience there and maybe also rectify some of the problems?
                        With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                        Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                        Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                        Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by pakarang View Post
                          Additionally, do we have any members here which we know we can trust and could install as a member with Administrative rights on the old board... someone who could maybe look into the problems we experience there and maybe also rectify some of the problems?
                          I'll see if I can download the complete website so we at least have a backup. My concern is that someone has placed a virus that could be downloaded with the pages so I'll use my old laptop to do it. Won't be tomorrow, because I've got to go to town but I'll see if it can be done before the end of the week.

                          Once the pages are downloaded then it should be possible to auto-edit the errors and then upload it, not in it's current forum format, but as a normal website. I've done this sort of thing a couple of times in the past with my own websites.

                          No promises of success.

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                            #28
                            Did the password reminder always ask for both your username & email address?

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Gaelsail View Post
                              Did the password reminder always ask for both your username & email address?
                              Umm, I cannot remember i am afraid. I guess your concerned about the request being genuine, and not from some hacker. I have noticed that once logged in i no longer have the option to edit my own posts, i am not sure if that was removed by our Captain, or whether it was done by someone else.

                              Interesting idea about downloading the whole forum and recreating it in a website format. In my own view i feel that the old forum needs to be heavily edited, so many of the posts at the moment make no sense at all because the photos that the posts referred to are no longer there. I can see no way of ever retrieving the lost information regarding the photos. The only way i can see it could be done is by members actually trying to match the posts with their photos stored on photobucket etc, but in my view that is out of the question, i myself have only a few dozen photos on photobucket, and the other day i decided to repost some of my posts from the old forum on this one, only half a dozen or so in the dry dock thread, and i struggled to match the photos with my original posts. Many of our members posted hundreds of photos on the old forum, it would be an impossible task for them to match their posts with photos again.

                              So i feel the only way forward for the old forum is for it to be drastically edited, to be honest i feel that a great deal of it will have to be removed. There are hundreds, if not thousands of posts that make no sense whatsoever without the photo it referred to. So i fear a great deal of the old forum is lost.

                              Having never worked with a forum control panel, i have no idea how all of the photo and link information was removed, is there a control panel command that automatically removes anysort of http address from posts?, if so, does it remove and delete the information completely, or does it store the information in case the decision is reversed? I just do not know. If it was not done from the control panel, then it must have been done maliciously with some sort of script/program/virus.

                              I think i will make my way back to the old board and have a closer look at what the situation is really like, just to get a better understanding of just how big a job it will be to put the forum back into somesort of order.

                              I think all of us here at C.V.F should give some thought to how we proceed. Being realistic, what parts of the old forum do people think are salvageable? Is it worth keeping posts that related to one particular photo?, and don't forget that there will be hundreds like that. Should we keep them, or should they go?

                              And if we do decide to condense what makes sense, should we leave it where it is on the old board? (bearing in mind that it could be attacked again), do we transfer it to website form?, or should we maybe create a new section on this forum to house all the information?

                              What do you all think?
                              Last edited by Steve.B; February 16th, 2011, 18:50.
                              Your charts, your radar, your eyes and ears - if all 4 agree, you may proceed with caution.

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                                #30
                                At the time the issue of missing images first became apparent, I came across this page from a support forum. It seems to say that the combination of an increased spam attack together with being an inactive forum had forced action by Forumer causing our image links to be irretrievably lost.

                                The associated issue of replaced words is also discussed.

                                http://fhq.forumer.com/ipb-bug-repor...ks-gone-2.html


                                Steve – I’d just come here to post the above when I saw your thoughtful post. I’ll look at it more fully – but for now:-
                                Due to a habit of typing posts separately and then pasting into the board, and the way I use Photobucket, I find I could easily recreate my own posts with their links, though there probably isn’t all that much of importance as archive (maybe photos from Fram’s christening and things like that – I’d been thinking about re-posting that in new forum after seeing your dry dock & Datchet posts Steve)
                                – but I agree it would be a formidable or impossible task for most people.
                                Last edited by Seagull; February 16th, 2011, 18:46.

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