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    Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

    Thanks very much, Thijs. That map completes the journey beautifully. I can go back to studying the Haringvliet Barrier this afternoon!
    I can't overlap my two images, the angle is wrong for the rest of the panorama. It didn't work.
    Ivy

    "To thine own self be true.......
    Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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      Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands



      red line as we came
      bleu is how we went
      purple dot is my spottingplace
      the orange circle is a big container terminal.(old old old GE image)
      the yellow water is new the new port
      the yellow earth is new digged away,is the new entrance for the new port
      pink dots the maasland keering
      white circle the hill

      MARK, if you read this,don't use those GE illustrations as your guide when you want to go to spottingplace,every thing is changed by now



      what the bleu line is,we know by now.(btw de drove the same way back,one way street)
      same for the pink dots
      white cross the hill,where we take those sonset images as from the QM2
      red arrow point the P&O ferry terminal.
      north of the cross, at the other riverside, the Stena Line terminal
      best regards Thijs

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        Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

        Originally posted by janihudi View Post
        a reminder where we where

        Dear Thijs,

        I'm really sorry, but my first thought when I saw this map was that it was a recollection of your walk home after a late night at the local PUB....
        With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

        Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
        Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

        Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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          Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

          that isn't gonna happen J-O,
          A.it's gonna be a long long long walk,more than 200 km,and i hate long walks.
          B.i don't drink alcohol,any alcohol
          best regards Thijs

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            Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

            Originally posted by janihudi View Post
            that isn't gonna happen J-O,
            A.it's gonna be a long long long walk,more than 200 km,and i hate long walks.
            B.i don't drink alcohol,any alcohol
            B: Not too much me either... anymore. Well, apart from an occasional Dry Martini.
            With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

            Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
            Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

            Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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              Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

              shaken or stirred?
              darn, not enough latters
              best regards Thijs

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                Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

                To follow #512 I have been preparing a special post to end with, celebrating what was a special time for me. But the atmosphere has, sadly, been broken.

                So instead I will just express my heartfelt thanks to you, Thijs, for the thoughtful planning and preparation that went into making my time in the Netherlands last June such an exciting, enjoyable one, full of surprises and fun. Thanks also for the hard work you have done in copying and translating pages from your books to show the story of much that went into the construction of the Delta Works. That, together with the actual day's exploration of the area, has fulfilled a long-held wish to find out more about this great achievement. Those pages and your maps will be printed out and put in my folder together with last year's maps of Woerkum.
                But my excitement in finding that we were going there did not eclipse that at seeing all the other places, from Woerkum (which I have come to love) to Dordrecht to Zaanse Schans, from the Highway Cruiser to the Janihudi, and the unforgettable ship-chasing!
                Thanks, Thijs.
                Ivy

                "To thine own self be true.......
                Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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                  Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

                  Originally posted by janihudi View Post
                  shaken or stirred?
                  darn, not enough latters
                  Definitely shaken.... and perhaps even some fruit-Martini... my favorite is Mango-Raspberry!
                  With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                  Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                  Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                  Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                    Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

                    i just got some of like the same images but from the other door.
                    also from the newspaper the shedule of closing the doors,which a few weeks back had a test closing.

                    i was enyoing it too Ivy,glad to be a help for those day's.
                    best regards Thijs

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                      Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

                      Originally posted by janihudi View Post
                      i just got some of like the same images but from the other door.
                      also from the newspaper the shedule of closing the doors,which a few weeks back had a test closing.
                      Then post them by all means, Thijs.
                      Ivy

                      "To thine own self be true.......
                      Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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                        Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

                        the last iages a have of the delta works.



                        best regards Thijs

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                          Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

                          the barriere closing

                          the enourmes doors of the maeslantbarrier ,which protect Rotterdam and behind against flooding,
                          are laying day after day useless at the side of the ''new waterway''.
                          ones a year they get tested -sunday 16 september is that day- ,
                          but further they waiting on a storm that statistical happens ones in 10 years.
                          the rolbook lays ready.

                          16 HOURS FOR CLOSING

                          already for days there is a arrival for a big storm.
                          pushed by a northwest storm treathens a enormes big watermass to the dutch coast,but the computer of the maeslantbarrier keep themselves quit .
                          til now.
                          she never stores earlier than 24 hours in advance alarm and not later then 16 hours against a stormflood.
                          only then the computer can well calculate when the waterlevel at Rotterdam comes above 3 meters above NAP.
                          information about the superstorm she get from measuring equipment at sea.
                          the staff of the deltawork gets a call at there pieper.
                          during storm season ,from 1 oktober untill 15 april,theyhave to carry them always.
                          they got 2 hours to get at there post.
                          a vacation far away is not gonna happen.

                          14Hours for closing

                          in the rolbook stands what the staff have to do.
                          beds have to made up and food have to get ordered for 3 days.
                          by contract is settled that the catering during stormseason always have storage for the barrier;
                          we have to be prepared that we are close out from the outside for a longer period.
                          by windforce 13 trucks blown over and the highway arround Rotterdam could have jammend.
                          we have to operate depends the chaos.

                          13 HOURS FOR CLOSING

                          after the first breefing get 1 half of the staff at work,the other half can go to bed or relax in the cantine:
                          every post is dubble occupied ,so that they can 1 for the other can sleep and work.
                          the most staff members take there place behind the screens in the controle room,but there is also security
                          thats prevent that ''pots viewers'' (curious viewers) come to look at the barrier.
                          at the office on the northside of the barier are at storm alarm 10 people and at the south,
                          on the ''landtong'' at rozenburg 5 people.
                          crisis situation or not.''offourse if the barrier is closing we also like it,this is where it's ment for''.
                          the computer calculate every 10 minutes over the ,the exspecting flootwave.
                          everyone is looking tenshed to the screens,the time of closing can change by evry new claculate.

                          11 HOURS FOR CLOSING

                          the dicide team have a meeting within every 3 hours.
                          the differend leaders looking at the situation.
                          they get the help of a supporter ,meanwhile a monitor is looking if everything is done by the book.
                          which have to look if there was stepped away from the protocol.
                          importents discusion:did the computer that he had to do?
                          the expirience have learned thatcomputers are not flawlessly.
                          people have to check them.
                          this was not always in the protocol.just since a few years they recognised that computers are fallible,
                          and that people got to have the last word.

                          8 HOURS for closing

                          ther goes a warning to the shipping.
                          they have 6 hours to get in or out the port of Rotterdam.

                          4 HOURS FOR CLOSING

                          water is let in to the docks of the doors.
                          the docks are filled in about 10 minutes.the doors are ready to fload in to the ''new waterway''
                          if BOS (Beslis -en Ondersteunend System=decide -and support system) operate as expected,there is no rason for stress at the dicide team.
                          but at a failure in the system the leader have to make a dissicion for repair
                          ''there is always the possabillety that we have to send in the extreme wheater people outside for repairs
                          for fixing a pump or cutting a cable.
                          it can also happen that we get damage the barrier.but then it had to go broken:
                          the closing is at a Royal Decree,it had always to go through,safety for all.

                          2 HOURS FOR CLOSING

                          it's not allowed to pass the barrier anymore for vessels.

                          THE CLOSING BEGINS

                          slowly are floading the doors to each other in the ''new waterway''.
                          every door as big as the eiffeltower.
                          after 30 minutes the doors meet eachother.
                          the sinking begins to a special treshold at the riverbed,which when the doors get filled with water, in 1,5 hours touch.
                          then the doors are a big wall in the ''new waterway''.
                          the barrier gets of the piek of the floodwave.
                          at 3 meters above NAP,the water floads over the quays in Vlaardingen and the ''noordereiland'' in Rotterdam,but the rest remains safeguarded for floods.

                          as long as the barrier there is ,is she closed 1 time,8 november 2007 for a stormflood,the team had a call at there pieper past winter for 2 times,but they went back without closing.

                          and by the closing of the doors is also the closing of our meetingsthread,i hope you all enjoyed it.

                          best regards Thijs

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                            Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

                            i forget to place a video of the closing



                            a quick closure
                            best regards Thijs

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                              Re: 2012: the second CV family meeting in Noord Brabant, the Netherlands

                              Oh I'm so glad you posted all that,Thijs. I had not realised there was such a long procedure to go through, with measuring instruments out at sea constantly relaying information to the computers, food stores laid up for the workers who will monitor and operate the system and even having to carry bleepers during the winter season.
                              You have worked so hard to present and translate all this information on the Delta Works, Thijs, and I thank you. It is splendid. In your own words, with the closing of the doors is the closing of our thread.
                              Ivy

                              "To thine own self be true.......
                              Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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