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    Help E (....and Sterkoder....) figure out a new camera

    This is something for everyone to mull over and think through and help me with.

    I want to buy a new camera before my next cruise with my mom. (yes there is a reason).

    I really LOVE my Sony DSC-T100 because I can put it in my pocket, carry it in the palm of my hand, it's always in my handbag, etc etc.

    BUT--I need zoom. I need fast recovery. I need to be able to take photos of a lifetime.

    I'm REALLY hesitant about getting a bigger SLR--because I wonder if I will regret having this heavy thing around my neck/shoulder all the time. Will I use it as much as my little '"snappy"--I certainly won't carry it around in my purse all the time or in my pocket. I also don't use all the "bells and whistles" and usually use it in automatic.

    so I need your input...

    What do I buy?

    What do I need?

    How much do I need to plan on spending (God knows, I don't want to spend much of ANYTHING right now..)

    Where do I buy? Where do I find a good deal??? (No, I don't mean PilotDane, although I'm sure his Kelli would say he's a "good Deal")

    Do I need to take a course to learn to use all the settings (how often do YOU take it out of "auto"???)

    Oh, I could go and do all the research myself, but WHY should I when I have all my CVSibs with so much more knowledge???

    Help me figure this out, please! We have lots of time--I don't "need" it until January--so that will give my time to get used to it before I leave February 5 or so.....

    #2
    For sure there is no point getting a bigger heavier camera if you are really not going to take it around with you, but only you can decide that. And similarly paying for features you honestly can’t see yourself using is also a waste of money. But I really wish you’d mentioned about a new camera when we met. You could have carried mine around a bit that day and tried it out. Do you know anyone local to you who has a SLR? If you could handle and use one you might better be able to make that first level decision between a digital SLR and a compact.

    Should you decide to stay compact what would you be hoping for that you don’t have at the moment? (I wasn’t sure what you meant by “I need fast recovery”). Is it just more telephoto zoom that is the main requirement? You need to compare the 35mm equivalent of the zoom ranges. Your existing Sony is 35mm – 175mm. I see that the latest model in the Panasonic Lumix range, the DMC-ZS3 (that’s in the USA – it’s called the DMC-TZ7 over here for some reason) is 25mm-300mm. Many of my photos that you have seen, taken prior to July last year (Fram’s maiden voyage, and the major compilations of Trollfjord and Nordstjernen on old forum for example), were taken with earlier Lumix models and I have been very satisfied with them.

    D who spends more time reading camera reviews than actually taking photos (!) showed me this website where you can search on features, or display your short list side-by-side to compare - here it is set up to show your Sony, the Panasonic Lumix, and a similar Canon model for comparison :-

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/comp...200is&show=all

    Hasn’t Gailsail been through much the same decisions recently, with increased telephoto capability the main factor?

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      #3
      Thinking about this a bit more, I realised you might be wondering why I finally made the decision to get a SLR when I had been satisfied with my previous camera.
      Previously when involved in a lot of geology fieldwork and when out walking, a light compact camera to pop in a rucksack was preferable. Whereas earlier today when I went to the shops to get stuff including cartons of juice and heavier food items, I didn’t take my camera – so now pakarang will have to wait to see the new branch of Starbucks that has just opened !!!!
      Oh, and my SLR doesn’t do movie clips, though I think there are some very recent models that do.

      Well, like you thoughts of changing my camera were prompted by holiday plans, in my case a return to Antarctica. Probably the desire to use a range of specialised lenses is why most folk decide to make the move to SLR, but as I recently explained in another thread , I didn’t even use the compatible lenses that were available to me on that trip!

      I’d say the one single thing that I could do more effectively, and which justified getting the SLR for that Antarctic trip, was getting a shallower depth of field when desired. Like focusing on one penguin and getting others out of focus so as not to have too confusing a picture with everything sharp.
      Examples:-




      By the way, it was amazing how many people had got new cameras for such a holiday, and even more amazing that they had left the purchase until the week before, or had never tried to change lenses or manipulate settings on their camera with gloves on . . .

      Where are you off to next February by the way??????

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        #4
        So, you want to stay small. Since you want a good bit of zoom that rules out the very tiny cameras but there are still plenty that will fit into a coat pocket or purse. Since you are not considering an SLR price is no concern. Anything other than an SLR is affordable.

        Without researching, something like this might be my first pick if you can wait a month and want to stay with Sony. The DSC-WX1 Cybershot will be available with 5x zoom, HD movies, stabilization and a lemony fresh scent:
        http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ot_Point_.html

        There are baby slr's that have crazy 26x zoom ranges but you are getting bigger and loose the automatic lens cover that helps make a pocket camera so convenient. On the plus size they will give you a lot of flexibility and move you a step closer to SLC photo quality.

        Personally I am a bit all or nothing. I carry a small pocket camera and a full size SLR.

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          #5
          pilotdane, I checked out the specs , on the new Sony DSC-WX1 and found that the 5x zoom is actually 24mm-120mm equivalent, so actually is less telephoto than E's current camera.

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            #6
            Originally posted by pilotdane View Post

            There are baby slr's that have crazy 26x zoom ranges but you are getting bigger and loose the automatic lens cover that helps make a pocket camera so convenient. On the plus size they will give you a lot of flexibility and move you a step closer to SLC photo quality.
            I really like my Olympus 590 and although it is not the lightest or smallest camera, carrying it around is not as much of a nuisance as carrying a handbag. It will still hand round your neck and fit under your rain jacket

            There are 2 issues:
            • I'm still trying to get used to some of the controls, I learn some new tricks and then go back to the manual for the 'next lesson'
            • I'm having to restrain myself- images from the opposite bank of the river or loch don't always work (as you'll have seen on CV) and I'm also a bit too adventurous when it comes to wildlife in the distance.


            There is a rapid shot control when I know I want to take a series of images but you need to know in advance to change the settings. If I see an image I want to snap on the ordinary setting, then there is a delay before the camera is ready to take the next pix.

            I spoke to the Olympus rep last week about the battery life and we decided I needed to buy a more expensive charger that would discharge/recharge each battery individually rather than as a batch thus improving the time they last after each charge and total lifespan.

            We also decided I should buy a remote shutter release for taking high-zoom pix without touching the camera and getting camera shake. He also suggested I didn't really need any additional lenses for the type of pix I take.

            If I had the opportunity to buy a new camera now what would I do? make the same decision again

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              #7
              Originally posted by Seagull View Post
              ...I wasn’t sure what you meant by “I need fast recovery”...)
              Ok, I now realise you probably mean what Gailsail has described as rapid shot control. I must admit that this is a feature that doesn’t really appeal to me. Yes I know I was saying recently, when admiring a series of pakarang’s photos from the Nærøysund bridge, that I’m so much slower than he is in capturing shots in the time the ship passes under a bridge. But I was thinking more about changing zoom during that time, and generally getting different shots rather than a series of near identical ones. And if I was planning on, to give a local example, a ship coming under the Forth Bridge taken from a nearby viewpoint, I usually decide on the zoom and framing and general exposure setting (auto if the light is varying) and so be poised ready to click when the ship reaches the desired position.

              The delay before another shot can be taken is negligible compared with what it used to be with the very first digital cameras.

              The only occasion I thought in retrospect that perhaps I should have used a rapid repeat feature was at Fram’s christening in order to try to get the champagne bottle smashing at the moment of impact, but then if I’d done this I might not have got such nice photos of the Princess!

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                #8
                I don't know if anyone follows the photography threads on Cruise Critic but a member has posted some good "how to" lessons in photography.

                1: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=791007
                2: http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/sho...d.php?t=807836
                3: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=824433
                4: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=835827
                5: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=848866
                6: http://boards10.cruisecritic.com/sho...d.php?t=874451

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                  #9
                  Keep the info coming--it's helping tremendously...

                  Seagull- my mom and I are doing the World Cruise leg from Cape Town to Mumbai...and she wants to go back to the game preserve for 2 days on safari............

                  I know , I know...pinch me.... gosh it's a rough life, but SOMEONE has to be her companion, and as I am her only daughter....... and as this might be my only chance to ever see Africa--and my favorite animal, cheetahs-- I want to get it right.........

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                    #10
                    AhAh, that explains everything – “going on safari” is the big reason for folk suddenly thinking about new cameras and telephoto lenses! (I was confused because I thought your next cruise was something including Straits of Gibraltar and Rome and London – but perhaps that is your next “all-the-family” cruise?)

                    No first hand experience to offer– Edinburgh Zoo is perhaps not quite the same challenge!

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                      #11
                      Cameras have to have their software UPDATED???? I am still in the stone age, it seems.....

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                        #12
                        Have you thought any more about what you want? Big, small, fancy, simple...

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                          #13
                          simple. lots of zoom. Spent the evening reading up on fancier compacts. Don't think I will lug it around in my handbag all the time--I'll keep my little sony for that-- But face it, I'm not going to go messing with dials and settings, probably. I mean, I've had my Sony T-100 for 2 years and I just fiddled with the white balance TODAY, wondering what it was...

                          (I can hear the Norwegians snickering all the way across the pond....)

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                            #14
                            Taking photographs in the rain

                            Originally posted by ehp View Post
                            simple. lots of zoom. Spent the evening reading up on fancier compacts. Don't think I will lug it around in my handbag all the time--I'll keep my little sony for that-- But face it, I'm not going to go messing with dials and settings, probably. I mean, I've had my Sony T-100 for 2 years and I just fiddled with the white balance TODAY, wondering what it was...

                            (I can hear the Norwegians snickering all the way across the pond....)
                            We have had very heavy rain over the last 2 weeks, the first real bad weather all summer.

                            I suddenly realised there was an extra advantage of having a good zoom on my camera . I could sit in the driver's seat, open the passenger window and use the zoom on the camera to take a photograph out of the passenger window without getting wet or having any of the car in the frame. Lazy or what ?

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                              #15
                              Naaah..... not lazy at all... I have always loved having more than enough zoom....

                              Without it, I would have lost so many wonderful opportunities that I would have made me turn insane...

                              Zoom is a great thing... using it to the full, I could zoom into the corner of the eye of a real Bengal tiger in a drive-through zoo in Thailand... no way, I would have gotten so close without a zoom.

                              But when it comes to the choice between an inter-changeable lens SLR or a compact camera, I'm most pleased with the photographs taken with the SLR. There is no doubt in my mind that the quality of a SLR is far superior than to a compact... the weight has always been a problem, but I wouldn't have wanted it any other way.
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