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    And... only in America. It has become a "thing" for people to dress up as clowns. Usually scary clowns and they go about and heckle and scare people. So, it is now becoming common for newspapers, television news and police to field questions like "is it OK to shoot clowns?". And, the police and news are having to explain that there are people/humans inside those clown costumes and it is not OK to just shoot them.

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    • wherrygirl
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      Oh, what a relief.

    • ombugge
      ombugge commented
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      apparently not only in America.
      Ivy, don't be too relieved, one may pop up on a street near you : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...n/3194922.html
      Hopefully shooting the clowns will not be first option in UK though.

    • wherrygirl
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      Ombugge, there was a report of one in Norwich, the county town of Norfolk - but at only 16 miles from my town it is our normal venue for shopping, cultural events, etc. A woman was apparently terrified out of her wits. I think I'll have to give apologies to the meetings I have to attend which are always in the evening, and say "Clowns about, I'm not coming out."

    More American culture exported to the world: http://www.timeout.com/london/things...-day-in-london

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      Zombies have been a problem in the US for a long time. They are such a problem that there is even special ammunition for them. And no it is not a joke. There are entire product lines of real ammunition for zombies.

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        This is scarcely believable, Dane.
        Ivy

        "To thine own self be true.......
        Thou canst not then be false to any man."

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        • ombugge
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          And this is before President Trump take office in January. Imagine what it will be like when "Alt.Right" and NRA are in charge.

        Sounds like you may have to emigrate if DT takes office. He is more scary than the clowns and zombies.....I think.

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        • Sigve
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          If Trump is elected president: God protect us from America!

        • nari
          nari commented
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          .....indeed!!!!

        • pilotdane
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          If Trump is elected I don't know how he will accomplish anything. He is turning anyone who does not support him into an outright enemy and has fewer and fewer allies every day. I don't know how he could get any legislation passed should he become President.

          Still, I am amazed/shocked at the people that still support him. I have always comprehended how the Nazi party came to power but I have never understood how Hitler was able to remain in power as his actions become increasingly insane. Unfortunately I now see how. I see how but I do not understand. Trump's supporters overlook every transgression and hold him in god status and I am at a loss to understand how. People are totally in love with the ideal while loosing all sense of reason or reality.

          I have always been a Republican. I really had problem when they picked Sarah Pailin as the Vice President candidate. I have great respect for John McCaine so pairing him with a wack-a-doole like Pailin was a shock and showed lack of true direction in the party. Unfortunately the party leaned towards the reality television side with quick easy support from white, conservatives much like fatty snack food. Well, now I find myself with no place in American politics. Both Democrats and Republicans are increasingly drawn to the extremes and a moderate like me is left with no one to support.

        In a switch from the political talk I just finished a long range shooting course. The first half was spent in the classroom with lots of science, math and really made me feel like I was back in school. All sorts of stuff. The physics of how bullet shape and density affects how it flies. How fast you must spin the bullet to make it stable when flying supersonic. The affects of the atmosphere like altitude, temperature and humidity. Then we had to learn to account for the spin drift as the rotating bullet "flies" because of it's rotation. And just when I thought we had had enough... we had to account for the rotation of the planet! Even if you are not into guns and shooting it is really an interesting science and gives me great respect for those designing the mechanical computers to aim the naval guns of WW I and II.

        My range at home is only 150 yards (137m) and all of my hunting has been a relatively short range so I have never needed to get beyond the basic mechanics of getting a bullet from point A to B. After the classroom instruction we started at 500 yards (457m) which was a shock but the math really works and it was pretty easy to hit the target. When we got to 800 yards (730m) things started to get difficult. Accounting for the wind became very important and it was the limit where the hits could be seen through our spotting scopes. It was also the last time we could hear the "clang" as our shots hit the steel target. The time of flight for the bullet started to get very noticeable and it was even longer for the sound of the "clang" to get back to our ears.

        By the time we got out to 1'000 yards (915m) things got really difficult. We had to use all the school stuff and accounting for the rotation of the planet became even more important. For training we were using a caliber (.308 or NATO 7.62) that was almost at it's limit so we had to use everything we were taught in the classroom to make it work and not rely on a more powerful/capable caliber. The mirage made it impossible to see hits on the target with our telescopes so we relied on a remote video camera to see the target and soon we learned that we had to work together. It took three working as a team to have a chance of hitting the target. One person looked through the spotting scope to see the wind down range while another watched the video to monitor where the shot lands and offer corrections. The shooter had to be ready to shoot upon the command of the person spotting for wind. A very odd situation as we started out thinking the shooter was the only person in the game but soon realized that you needed a team and the shooting was actually the easy part.

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          "Yes" in case anyone is wondering whether or not I voted. Early voting began in my state yesterday. I left work and went around 10 and cast ballot #212 for that polling location and the line was out the door when I left. I have not seen a turnout like this before so I'm hopeful at least that people are getting out and casting their vote. I am ever hopeful for the reason of democracy.

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          • ombugge
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            Yes it is good that more people do their duty and fulfill their rights. But let us hope that doesn't mean they vote in a demagogue to be the next President. This rather long news report from MSNBC contains an interview with former Supreme Court Judge David Souter in 2012 and his take on what may happen if they do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VslCHyJlOlc

          God save us! PLEEEEEASE!!!
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          • ombugge
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            GOD HELP US!!!

          • Ralf__
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            Victor Orbán, Recep Erdogan, Theresa May, Milos Zeman, Wladimir Putin, Baschar al-Assad, Salman ibn Abd al-Aziz, Kim Jong-un, Jacob Zuma, Nicolás Maduro, Daniel Ortega, Alexander Lukaschenko, Donald Trump... there are surely many more on this list.

            All these do not really favor tolerance, fraternity, communication, cooperation, ethics and moral.
            All these are more or less mind-boggling and have nationalistic tendencies.
            And we have similar movements in Germany, Netherlands, France, Austria, Switzerland, just to mention some.

            But this is no coincidence. What is wrong in our societies. World war II already too far away?

          • yvneac
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            Yes Ralf the WWII seems to be far away.Probably because the world built on its ruins doesn't exist anymore. Unfortunately a lot of people doesn't find its own place in the new one and look for a solution in the wrong way. When the Nations think the economy without thinking about its social outcomes the link between the people and the institutions falls apart.

          An artichle in Splash 24/7 today put the US election of Trump in a historic and shipping perspective: http://splash247.com/farewell-gutenb...uckerberg-zoo/

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            And we thought things would calm down after the election... Things continue to heat up and new controversies continue to appear. A week after the election and I still can't watch the news without throwing something at the TV.

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            • Tommi
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              Well, if this trend continues, then there should be a large demand for starting up domestic manufacture of TV-sets... :-)

            • ombugge
              ombugge commented
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              Or sneakers?
              Well, maybe they don't need so much exercise after spending a long hot day picking fruit and vegetables, or doing all the other menial tasks now done be foreign workers at slave pay.

            USA pick and chose which international Organizations and treaties they want to be part of.
            The International Criminal Court are not one of them: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-wa...-idUSKBN13A2W8

            Why not?: http://americanhumanist.org/HNN/deta...s-the-united-s

            USA has signed but not ratified UNCLOS: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...n-unclos-16948

            Here is some other treaties US is not party to: http://www.politico.com/gallery/10-t...tified?slide=0

            Of course all countries has the right to pick and chose, but most sign up to International treaties that protect their own and other citizens and the environment.
            USA appears only to care for their own interests. That is not likely to change in the next 4-year period. On the contrary, Trump is threatening to leave even those USA is member of.
            Last edited by ombugge; November 16th, 2016, 19:38.

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            • pilotdane
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              This will be an interesting 4 (hopefully) years. I almost feel like apologizing in advance for what my country is about to do.

              On a almost humorous note the stock prices of gun manufacturers have dropped since Trump was elected. President Obama's administration has done little to limit gun sales but the NRA and right wingers have had 8 years to point their fingers and say "Obama's going to take your guns away". It has been the best advertising the gun industry could hope for. Now with a pro gun president elect Wall Street is thinking that gun sales will fall.

            • ombugge
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              Don't ever mix logic with how politics is interpreted by the general public!!!, or Wall Street for that matter.

            Have a look at the Trump residence in Trump Tower, NYC: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...u-statues.html
            Why?? Don't all Americans live like this??

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            • pilotdane
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              There was a TV commercial trying to show that Hilary Clinton was an elitist and not in touch with the common man. They showed a super mid size private jet. I had to laugh since Trump rides around in a private 757. As for their design style I'm not a fan of "gold bling". I did like the carpets shown in that link... they probably cost as much as my house.

            Holy crap. But then again, this is how ALL AMERICANS live as far as I know... hahahahahaha...

            To be honest.... the style of those living spaces are not to my taste. The White House ust be bleak compared to that palazzio.
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            • pilotdane
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              I cringe to think what Trump will do to the White House. Politics aside I really can not stand his decorating style.

            Rumor has it Trumps plans are to knock the White House down and build a new casino.

            All kidding aside, I hope the American public will settle down and give the guy a chance. Quit jumping to conclusions that are fed by the wonderful news channels and see what he can do. I'm sure he can't do any more damage or have any more skeletons in his closet than most past presidents.

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              Yes, right now everyone is sort of in a state of self induced panic. The radical groups are seeing this as their time to come out of the shadows and the media is all to glad to give them air time.

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