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  • #46
    Check out this amazing video - not long, and well worth seeing!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M1hSeMWk-Q
     
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    • #47
      I recently had my first 747 experience. It was LH456, FRA-LAX on a 747-8i.

      The beast that took us to LAX, B74H "Sachsen Anhalt"


      I got a change of seat, 84A. Very comfortable seats, no problem that they are pivoted towards eachother. Also very nice with extra storage, there is a large hold between the seat and the fuselage


      What it looks like fully reclined:


      Plenty of leg room:


      Now to the food, it was ok, which is kind of a disappointment, as I expected more from a full service carrier in business class, especially on a flight departing from their home base. Sloppy vegetables and over-cooked meat, meh...


      The cheese for dessert was good:


      Made sure to get a good 4-5 hours sleep to make up for having to get up that early:


      Before arrival we were served some dinner. A salad with portobello mushrooms and a goulash. Again, tasted meh...


      [...]
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      w/ Lots of new and old (adapted lenses)...

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      • #48
        [...]

        Some more pictures from other places in the 747-8, first the upper deck business cabin:


        Mini-cabin down on the main deck:


        staircase from the upside:


        from the main deck:


        Glad I wasn't stuck here for 11 hours:


        Huge wing and huge engines:


        To sum it all up, I liked the hardware very much, I hope SAS goes for something like these seats when they specify their new Business class cabin in their coming Airbus A350 and A330E aircraft. The food on the other hand leaves a fair bit to be desired. I also found the 747 fairly noisy on the top deck, almost no engine noise, but a fair bit more wind noise. Doesn't surprise me as that typical 747-hump must create a fair bit of turbulence behind it, resulting in increased wind noise. I found the A340-300 I flew home on to be much more quiet.

        It also seems like it's end game for the 747 as a passenger airliner. The only airlines to have any on order are Lufthansa and Korean. Rumors have it that the reason they are buying them is that Boeing are offering very good buy-back deals for their old 747-400s. Lufthansa are also not that pleased with their fleet of 747-8, they are not as economical as Boeing promised. They are rumored to replace them earlier than expected. They also announced renewal of their long haul fleet recently. They will go for a mix of Airbus A350-900 and Boeing 777-9x, so no 787s, and no more 747s than what they currently have on order. It seems like four engine planes in general are on their way out, as most airlines are quite keen on getting rid of them. Singapore Airlines are already scrapping their not-so-old A340-500s, Thai have grounded them. The reason is higher fuel costs.
        Olympus user
        E-PL1, E-M5
        w/ Lots of new and old (adapted lenses)...

        Hurtigruten ships traveled on:
        MS Richard With, MS Nordnorge, MS Nordkapp, MS Nordlys, MS Finnmarken, MS Midnatsol (Both old and new)

        Cruise ships traveled on:
        MS Sunbird, former Rccl Song of America, now MS Louis Olympia (August 2002)
        MS Adventure of the Seas (October 2010)
        MS Vision of the Seas (June 2012)

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        • #49
          Interesting report Eirik. I had many years travelling to and from Asia in the Economy Class section of what were then new 747-400s, when the physics of something that large flying 14 hours non-stop were still rather much to think about! Next month BA starts to fly A380s to Hong Kong, they're already going to LAX, joining the large fleets that Air France, Lufthansa, SQ, QF, Emirates and a few others have - like you say maybe those are the only 4 engined jets with a future. When the 747s do eventually go, I hope we realise how much they did to change the world - and particularly to shrink it.
          Cheers,

          Mark.

          www.pologlover.co.uk

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          • #50
            I have flown on 747s since they first got in the air, back over 40 years ago. (1970) In the early days, back in 1975-78 I was flying regularly to/from Japan, mostly on 747s and sometimes twice a month. (Always in 1st Class, since Business Class hadn't been invented yet)

            At that time Japan Airlines and ANA flew short haul 747s from Haneda to Sapporo v.v. This version had no internal bulkheads and no Galley. It was packed with 550 seats, placed to suit the average Japanese size. Leg room was rather limited for a six footer, like me.

            Entering through the front door and looking down the full length of the plane was quite a "cultural shock" the first time, I can assure you. It certainly gave an impression of how big the 747s really are.

            Singapore Airline also used 747s on short hauls, such as SIN-JKT and SIN-BKK, but these were just normal long haul planes used at peak times and to fill time slots between their normal SIN-LAX and SIN-LHR etc. routes.

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            • #51
              I have long known that the 747 was approved to fly with three working engines. That itself is amazing that a commercial passenger can be approved to take off with one engine not working. Recently I learned that the 747 is capable of carrying 5 engines. On the port side are attach points to ferry an engine pod. The engine does not operate but it's used to ferry repaired or malfunctioning engines for maintenance. I imagine this was useful early in it's career when support was not available in many places around the world.

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              • #52
                Not too long ago, I became aware of this Boeing 747 and it's rich history....

                http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2009...estaurant.html

                http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/3709...ting-away.html

                https://www.google.no/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=...a%20restaurant

                https://www.google.no/search?q=n747p...3NsLvg#imgrc=_

                Not currently in great shape, if still intact... but WAOW, this is still awesome.

                I tried locating the spot in Google Earth but a lot of searching did not help me out...
                With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                • #53
                  There are more abandoned B 747s around.
                  Somebody forgot 3 of them at KLIA in Malaysia and now the Airport Authorities would like for the Owner(s) to com and collect them.
                  But how do you contact the Owner(s) if you don't know who they are?? You advertise in the Malaysian press of cause: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/cat...nta-icelandic/

                  Here is a report in the Straits Time: http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-...of-boeing-747s

                  I have noticed these planes several times, but never taken any picture that I can find. I found this picture on the net, however:


                  The above picture and some more info on the Malaysiawings forum: ​http://www.malaysianwings.com/forum/...howtopic=19731
                  Anybody interested in buying?

                  This has become world news as it is not common to "forget" air crafts of this size anywhere, nor is it common to advertise to find the Owner(s), as stated by MHAB.
                  How is it possible not to know who own planes that has been standing on your airport for a couple of years anyhow?? (Only in Malaysia. Malaysia Boleh!!!)

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                  • #54
                    Thanks for pointing this story out. A Captain of Thai, a close friend of mine, sent me an image on the phone today as well about these... He also sent me the call-signs of all three aicrafts, and if I'm not mistaken, they were last operated by a Greenland operator.

                    I'd love to have one, and convert it into a private residence, but I'm not ready to accept the financial burden nor the cost of conversion work.
                    With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                    • #55
                      Cathay Pacific flew their final flight using Boeing 747 passenger-edition yesterday.

                      The end of the 747 is quickly approaching around the world.

                      Thai Airways will also phase out their remaining handful 747 within the next 2-3 years.
                      With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                      • #56
                        I keep dreaming of riding on the upper deck in Delta One. I've heard it's like riding in your own private jet with just a dozen passengers, two lavatories and your own flight attendant. A very different experience than the lower deck or any other airplane.

                        I'm trying hard to find a way to make our upcoming trip to Singapore aboard a 747. Our original flights aboard a 777 were cancelled so we are free to change without paying a fee. There is a 747 flight from Detroit (DTW) to Narita Japan (NRT) that I would love to get on but there is no good connection to get us from Raleigh Durham (RDU) to Detroit without a dangerously short connection. I'm just hoping for another "adjustment" of Delta's schedule for the grand plan to work out.

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                        • PoloUK
                          PoloUK commented
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                          We used to travel to and from Asia a lot in 747s some 15 years ago. Upstairs the BA 747-400 was an economy section, but with 3+3 seating, dedicated cabin crew, more legroom - and usually the c0ckpit door open. We didn't always get to travel up there , but when we did it was so much better than other bits of the plane. Those were the days when you could ask for a c0ckpit visit, and be very welcomed by bored cabin crew - usually somewhere over the middle bit, Iran, Afghanistan, somewhere like that.

                          Later on we did several trips to Osaka with KLM - business class upstairs on a 747-400 combi. That was even better with so few people up there. The last time I did that trip there were only four people travelling in that part of the plane and two cabin crew!

                          Happy memories of a long time ago. Only thing of course is that even in seat 1A on a 747, or the Residence suite on the Etihad A380, you hit the same bumps as the folks at the back of the plane, and you have to cope with airports. I prefer boats.

                      • #57
                        I recall a similar experience back in 1986 when my daughter and I flew on a combined trip to Hawaii and Disneyland - top deck,plenty of room, only about 10 people, on a Qantas747. it was for economy pax, so we could not go downstairs while inflight as that would be entering first class.....

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                        • #58
                          Yea, I'm trying hard to get a rid on one of Delta's 747 before they retire them. They have accelerated their plans to retire them by a year so time is quickly running out.

                          I have only had two flights on a 747. One was business class 20 years ago and I was way up front where the cabin wall really dove in forming the point of the nose. Then 10 years ago riding in coach for 11 hours. Guess which seat I preferred?

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                          • nari
                            nari commented
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                            I gather that coach is part of a plane's seating??? Hadn't heard of it before.
                            How is the hurricane's path looking like for NC???

                          • pilotdane
                            pilotdane commented
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                            Yes, coach is the low cost, regular seating in the back of the plane. My first flight in a 747 was up in the nose in business class. There was nobody beside me and nobody in front. A very unique seat. It was business class of 20 years ago but still rather nice. My second flight was in back in coach. 10 abreast seating in a 3-4-3 configuration. Making it worse was sitting next to a stranger in seat D (middle section, aisle seat). I thought I was set pulling out my Game Boy and began playing Hexite and the kid next to me pulled out his laptop put me to technological shame.

                            As for the hurricane I am about 175 miles (280 k) from the coast. The wind is moderate and so far have gotten 4 1/2" (115mm) of rain. It's one reason we live where we do. Far enough from the coast to be protected from hurricanes. We are not in a desert so water is not a big problem, no volcanos and earthquakes, tornados and wild fires are minor risk. A relatively safe place to live.

                          • nari
                            nari commented
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                            Glad to know you are OK where you live. The seating in Economy (as we call coach) is pretty grim, even if one has an aisle seat for a regular stroll.
                            The newer plane are quieter but just as cramped, even in Premium economy. It reminds me that whichever continent one wants to go to, it is a long and dreary haul of up to 24 hours - if one lives in Australia.

                        • #59
                          Hope and pray that your flights will work out so that you get to feel the joy of a 747 again. Do you know when Delta is planning to phase out their last 747?

                          They are so quickly disappearing from the airports - I noticed in Bangkok, they are now quite rare to see (compared to 10-15-20 years ago).

                          Airports are full of 777 and 787.... and the A350 is also changing the airport landscapes too.

                          I hope to get a final one more chance to fly Thai 747 before they disappear, but according to unofficial reports, they are also speeding up their phase-out of 747.
                          With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

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                          • #60
                            Delta has accelerated their retirement of the 747 so they are going fast. It looks like it's not going to work out to ride in a 747 for our big trip. There is a flight from Detroit to Narita, Japan on the 747 but there is no flight from North Carolina to get us there in time to catch the flight. We would have to fly to Detroit the night before so we'll have to settle for a 777.
                            Last edited by pilotdane; November 17th, 2016, 01:56. Reason: EDIT: I checked our flights and we'll be riding in Airbus 330 and a 767 from Narita to Singapore. No 777 on this trip.

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