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    #91
    Interesting to read www.aeroinside.com on a regular basis - with 30,000 plus commercial aircraft in regular service, it's not a huge surprise that there are diversions, emergency landings and all sorts of other things happening every day.
    Cheers,

    Mark.

    www.pologlover.co.uk

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    • ombugge
      ombugge commented
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      My sentiment exactly. In this case a false alarm, which is maybe the most common reason for not taking off, or returning.
      Just about any other airline and this would be a non-event.

    #92
    Like Mark said, this happens all the time. Here is today's incident:

    Norwegian aircraft made an emergency landing in Copenhagen

    It was Sunday the aircraft with flight number 1736 from Oslo to Palma Mallorca had to make an emergency landing at Kastrup airport in Copenhagen. - They've been a bit sparse with information, but initial reports were that there had been a fire of any kind. When we made ​​an emergency landing there were several fire engines to the site, said passenger Tore Alm VG. He says that it is still unclear what caused the emergency landing, and the fire department has not yet identified any fire. - We got a message over loudspeakers that all so normal. Then we were sent to the gate, and now we are awaiting a message from the captain to get every moment, says Alm.

    Pressevakt in English Daniel Kirchhoff confirms that a plane with destination Palma has landed in Kastrup.
    - We've had one flight where the captain received an indication of fire in the rear of the cargo compartment. The captain sparked a fire extinguisher and responded with a safety landing. When the plane landed, it was checked by fire engines and there was no sign of fire, he said.

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    • ombugge
      ombugge commented
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      I just wonder why GE translate the name of the company from "Norwegian" to "English"??
      Here is the original text: "Pressevakt i Norwegian Daniel Kirchhoff bekrefter at et fly med destinasjon Palma har landet i Kastrup".

    #93
    I missed this article back in April 2014, but it just confirm what I have been saying about the Malaysia Military reliability: http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/259738

    Notice that they only scrambled AFTER MAS has gone out publicly to announce that MH 370 was missing.
    Nothing said about the type of aircraft that was scrambled, nor where it went in search of the missing plane.
    My guess is towards the last known position declared over the GOT/South China Sea, as that was the most likely scenario at the time.

    As said earlier, I would not be at all surprise if they were tracking another aircraft, or rather found a suitable track on the recorded saved for that night, which gave rise to the much publicized track over Penang and turning NW, only to disappear somewhere north of Sabang, Indonesia, which became the starting point for the two possible corridors declared by Inmarsat.

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      #94
      A piece of wreckage found on La Reunion in the Indian Ocean MAY be from the missing MH 370: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...e/2016558.html
      If proven true it would indicate that the theory of the main wreckage being somewhere off SW Australia is correct.

      Looking at the map showing the Indian Ocean Gyre it makes good sense for wreckage to end up on the islands in the Indian Ocean, incl. Mauritius, Reunion, Madagascar or the Seychelles:


      It has been too long for any position of the wreckage to be pinpointed from this find, but the general area MAY be calculated by those with more accurate current and wind data available.
      The distance between Fremantle and La Reunion is abt. 3,500 n.miles by the normal shipping route. Allowing for the lesser distance from the search area but adding distance for the likely route of drift via the South Equatorial Current, the total distance is approx 4,000 n.miles.

      If we assume a steady speed of 0.5 knots, or 12 n.miles/day it would take only 333 days for the wreckage to drift that distance. The distance is thus not an issue, as speculated on BBC World News. It is now nearly 500 days since MH 370 disappeared, the average drift per day could thus be as low as 8 n.m./day, or 0.33 kts.

      It is stated that the wreckage washed up on La Reunion yesterday, but is it possible that it has been on the beach for a while??

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        #95
        Predictably, more parts that MAY be from MH 370 has now been found on the beach of La Reunion: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-s...--reports.html

        Having looked at some closeup pictures of the flaparon that was found earlier, or rather at the marine growth attached to it, it is obvious that it has been drifting in the ocean for a long time and probably floating deep in the water, which means it has been mainly affected by current, not so much by wind forces, although the wind does affect the current very close to the surface.

        Another thing I noticed is that the shellfish and barnacles attached to it looks like they have been dead for a while. Furthermore, the shells looks sun bleached, which may indicate that it has been on that beach for a considerable time.

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        • ombugge
          ombugge commented
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          Here is more of what the marine growth can tell us, or rather the experts who know these things:
          http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0Q80PY20150803

        • ombugge
          ombugge commented
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          It looks like the experts got it wrong when they modeled the drift pattern of debris when they expected debris to wash up on the west coast of Sumatra first: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0QA03V20150805
          How the could miss the the well known South Equatorial Current in their model is a bit of a mystery, just like everything else about the MH 370.

          The confirmation of the obvious, that the flaperon found on Reunion is from the missing MH 370, may be officially confirmed later today.
          There cannot be much doubt about the origin, since no other B 777 has crashed, or gone missing, anywhere in the Indian Ocean.
          (Hopefully these experts will prove to be more reliable)

        #96
        It has now been confirmed that a maintenance "patch" found on the flaparon is from MAS and from their records correspond to one placed on the plane used for flight MH-370.

        This confirmation was issued by the PM of Malaysia, based on the findings by the Malaysian team in Toulouse, although the French investigators will still wait until they can find serial numbers from Boeing before giving 100% confirmation:
        http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Natio...l-on-flaperon/

        Unfortunately this is not likely explain what happened to the plane, except maybe how it entered water, whether diving near vertically, or "pancaking" into the water.

        None of this will satisfy the relatives, although some may be able to accept that their loved ones are not going to come back.

        If and when the wreckage is located the effort will be on recovering the "black boxes", which may be able to answer what happened.
        It is highly unlikely that any bodies, or large pieces of wreckage, will be recovered from 4-6000 m. water depth.

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          #97

          Just read in Bangkok Post that Australian government wants China and Malaysia to take more responsibility for the search. So far, Australia is leading and organizing the search and they now state that they will only do so out this year. The Australian PM is apparently disappointed that Malaysia and China doesn't do more. After all, Australia only had a handful of their citizens lost in the tragedy.

          I can't find the article on their website though, only in the online pay-version.
          With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

          Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
          Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

          Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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          • ombugge
            ombugge commented
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            The reason for Australia's role is also because the presumed crash site is within their SAR zone.

          #98
          Exactly... that is also what the article states. But they are now asking Malaysia and China to take over the leading role (financially).

          With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

          Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
          Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

          Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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            #99
            This is how deep the wreck of MH370 possibly could rest:

            http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/fl...ge/a/10139365/

            With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

            Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
            Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

            Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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              There hasn't been much realistic doubt, but now it is officially confirmed that the "flaparone" found on La Reunion IS from MH 370 and thereby that the plane crashed in the Indian Ocean: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...t/2099202.html

              It does NOT confirm where in the Indian Ocean it crashed, nor does it solve the question of WHY.

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                Latest on the search for MH 370: http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/316419
                Not much new facts actually, but at least it is still being written about,

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                  Now it should be only a matter of weeks before the wreckage of MH 370 is found.
                  Why??? Because there will be a ship and crew from Sunnmore looking for it soon: http://www.smp.no/naeringsliv/2015/1...0-11867352.ece

                  Havila Harmony has been extensively featured here on CVF before: http://www.captainsvoyage-forum.com/...nd-boats/page9
                  (Post # 125 - 147)

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                    I hope and pray, mostly for the people who lost someone in the disaster, but also for everybody that is flying around the world, that they will find the plane and determine the cause of the crash.
                    With best regards from Jan-Olav Storli

                    Administrator and Owner of CaptainsVoyage.
                    Main page: http://www.captainsvoyage.com

                    Surround yourself with positive, ethical people who are committed to excellence.

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                      No x-mas holiday for the MH 370 search teams: http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/cat...-in-june-2016/

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                        Latest news from the search team: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...k/2421916.html

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